When did he defeat Galactus?
And besides, Eterinity's a bit of a jober. Isin't he geting beat by that flame headed guy in defenders as we speak? I'm not at all sure it's clear how powerful he is.
In fact, I don't know how powerful ANY of thoes comic forces are. They've all been bested by plenty of guys. And, by nature, is a person able to bring the dead back to life not more powerful then Death?
i was talking about sentry defeating galactus and isnt it QUITE obvious that genis vell defeated eternity if he went at it in the previous issue and it was defeated in the next? and also what about entropy, genis defeated entropy too. oh yea, sum1 who can resurrect sum1 is DEFINATELY not above death. this is getting ridiculous anyway, the ABSTRACTS are far FAR beyond the likes of skyfather's and galactus level people. that is a fact that cant be changed very few forces have ever stood up agaist them.
Originally posted by The Ion
Well by god I guess that means old Stephen is right up there with Tribunal and Spectre.
actually hes resisted the power of the living tribunal and the infinity gauntlett too, strange is actually one of the very VERY few that can be said to be abstract level and higher. other than him theres only the IG and THOTU, going by actual feats. no1 else has shown to be on par with the abstracts, no character anyway, other than franklin richards. a few have resisted eternity like dormammu but then had their ass beaten, only cyttorak has proven to be a problem for eternity.
<<ok heres a simple question for all fanboys if defeating galactus, eternity and killing entropy isnt enough for a character to be accepted as above king thor than what exactly would he have to do to PROVE that he can indeed defeat king thor?>>
fanboys?eer
(A) i asked for scans showing me genis owning king thor. if you call those scans evidence of such nothing i can say will help you.
(B) to answer your question -- well, i guess he could BEAT king thor for a start . . . hell, according to sam, he was losing to NORMAL thor!
<<Your shouting proves you haven't read any of the Thor comics leading up to that.
Thor dosen't use the Odinforce when throwing his hammer or other feats of power. His "Teaching him a lesson" remark was beacuse, last time they met, Normal Thor was more powerful, so he though throwing it would be enough.
Thor didn't seem very mad for somebody who suposedly killed all sorts of his countrymen.
The power of a million exspoldeing suns is a cachphrase, not a feat. I doubt anyone's measured Sentry's powered and detirmened that's how powerful he is.
Thor has time travled on many an occation.>>
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<<I'm not at all a fanboy of Thor or Genis...i do not even read their comics regularly, but from what i read and saw in this thread alone, i have to agree with leonidas.>>
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funny that all i did was ask for evidence that clearly doesn't exist, then you hop in screaming at the top of your lungs that we are stupid and fanboys. the scans SHOWED NOTHING. have you SEEN the odin force unleashed? hell, that throw was nothing for even REGULAR thor. i've yet to see any scans to support your argument, btw.
how about being less insulting and simply more knowledgeable.
Originally posted by leonidas
<<ok heres a simple question for all fanboys if defeating galactus, eternity and killing entropy isnt enough for a character to be accepted as above king thor than what exactly would he have to do to PROVE that he can indeed defeat king thor?>>fanboys?eer
(A) i asked for scans showing me genis owning king thor. if you call those scans evidence of such nothing i can say will help you.
(B) to answer your question -- well, i guess he could BEAT king thor for a start . . . hell, according to sam, he was losing to NORMAL thor!
<<Your shouting proves you haven't read any of the Thor comics leading up to that.
Thor dosen't use the Odinforce when throwing his hammer or other feats of power. His "Teaching him a lesson" remark was beacuse, last time they met, Normal Thor was more powerful, so he though throwing it would be enough.i never said genis owned king thor, if such a thing had already happened and i wudv said it, then i would post scans, he did stalemate him at the very least and has shown much greater power than him. and again its a SIMPLE question, if killing entropy eternity or stalemating galactus doesnt qualify any1 for being above odin or king thor level then WHAT DOES?
Thor didn't seem very mad for somebody who suposedly killed all sorts of his countrymen.
The power of a million exspoldeing suns is a cachphrase, not a feat. I doubt anyone's measured Sentry's powered and detirmened that's how powerful he is.
Thor has time travled on many an occation.>>✅
<<I'm not at all a fanboy of Thor or Genis...i do not even read their comics regularly, but from what i read and saw in this thread alone, i have to agree with leonidas.>>
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funny that all i did was ask for evidence that clearly doesn't exist, then you hop in screaming at the top of your lungs that we are stupid and fanboys. the scans SHOWED NOTHING. have you SEEN the odin force unleashed? hell, that throw was nothing for even REGULAR thor. i've yet to see any scans to support your argument, btw.
how about being less insulting and simply more knowledgeable.
i never said genis owned king thor, if such a thing had already happened and i wudv said it, then i would post scans, he did stalemate him at the very least and has shown much greater power than him. and again its a SIMPLE question, if killing entropy eternity or stalemating galactus doesnt qualify any1 for being above odin or king thor level then WHAT DOES?
and another thing leonides, and every one else her, what do u think exactly IS the odin force? i mean whats ur definition of it? does the narrator have to say WITH THE MIGHT OF HIS FATHER, "ODIN'S" POWER, KING THOR HURLED MLIJNOR AT GENIS VELL? the odin force is odin's power thats it, everything king thor does is many MANY times more powerful than normal thor BECAUSE of the odin force, its like getting the power of the infinity gauntlett which is just POWER, than punching sum1{lets assume adamwarlock has the gauntlett} does that punch or infact anything done that warlock previously could do{like forceblasts} NOT contain the power of the infnity gauntlett?! its just like sayin oh NO thats not the power of the infinity gauntlett thats just warlock's own strength. lol. the odinforce is PASSIVE and the thing is, thor cant be KING thor without it, and if he is king thor, he is using the odin force and it is also present in his every action.
Originally posted by sam_drugbringer
Plenty of people have stalemated Galactus. Hell, Thor without the Odin-force once made him go away.entropy and eternity is not evidence, beacuse it's unclear what the F*** happened there.
it id quite clear what happened, entropy used genis/rickones to destroy the universe and kill eternity, then in the void of nothingness rickjones with the power of jenis {and cured of his insanity} shot entropy and recreated the universe, besides, what OTHER explanations do u have for what happened?
Yep... at least partially true. Genis was used by another cosmic entity, Entropy, the son of Eternity (I), to kill his father so that he could take over in the Crazy Like A Fox story-arc. Entropy succeeded, leaving only Genis, Rick Jones (whose trapped in the Microverse), Epiphany (Entropy's sister) and Entropy the lone survivors of the battle (even the universe was destroyed). Entropy then recreated the universe.
So you see, he didn't survive on his own.
Originally posted by sam_drugbringer
Yep... at least partially true. Genis was used by another cosmic entity, Entropy, the son of Eternity (I), to kill his father so that he could take over in the Crazy Like A Fox story-arc. Entropy succeeded, leaving only Genis, Rick Jones (whose trapped in the Microverse), Epiphany (Entropy's sister) and Entropy the lone survivors of the battle (even the universe was destroyed). Entropy then recreated the universe.So you see, he didn't survive on his own.
genis was used i accept that, but he was used BECAUSE he could kill eternity and destroy the universe, and in ur post u actually ADMIT that he destroyed eternity
now for the thing with him not surviving on his own, WHERE DO U GET THAT?! there isnt even a hint of entropy or apiphany using their own power for his survival, just like warlock survived outside the universe, genis did too. and entropy did not RECREATE the universe, read the comic more carefully, genis asks entropy what he would do now, n entropy says he doesnt know and they have a lil talk on eternity than entropy asks genis what next and genis says sumthin like "go back to the beginning!" and points an aimed blast at him and the universe is recreated, it wasentropy's death that recreated the universe.