Originally posted by The Ion
Maybe you should read the damn comic!No seriously. It makes perfect sense. Young Genis has a lot of power but lacks the experience to use it correctly. Old Genis had the experience but lacked the raw power seeing as he was crippled (thats funny, if he was so powerful he wouldn't have gotten crippled). When they combined they got the best of both.
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But what do the Nega bands do ?
Originally posted by The Ion
The Nega-Bands convert psionic energy stored within Genis' cells into increased strength, grant him increased resilience, the power of flight, the ability to fire beams of any energy type from the bands, and the ability to survive unprotected in space.
Whys he got soo much energy stored in hiis cells, how cum he can warp space ?
Originally posted by The Ion
Warp space as in alter reality? He doesn't. He's an energy manipulator not unlike Surfer or GL.
In the recent T-Bolt series and the House of M, i was under the impression that his main power was to warp space.
"Warp space as in alter reality?"
This is a bit of a tricky question to answer, but from what i gathered from your perspective, the answer is no !!!!!!!
Space War page is manipulating space time i.e. worm holes etc !!!!!!!
i'll beg to differ . . .
we may not have seen kt after that blast, but he sure as hell was talking. i'm not sure WHY he didn't get into the fights later (if that IS the case) but i HIGHLY doubt it's because he was 'too hurt'. kt may well have underestimated genis (which seems quite clear) -- i suspect a ready and waiting out for blood kt would have been a slightly greater problem . . .
second, it is PURE speculation on your part that the hammer was amped. what leads you to believe that exactly? same as led leon to believe it most likley. see my argument over his thought processes if that is what you believe . . . i say again -- that notion is ridiculous. as for the fact he did't grunt -- so? his being blasted back by that VERY casual toss, says a lot more than a grunt could say. thor's hammer has absorbed the power of the CELESTIALS and been unfazed, it has shattered exitar's brain dome. and you think that toss somehow was beyond THOSE shots? you must be kidding . . .. if he wanted and willed it, thor (normal thor) could absord genis' power just as he has absorbed ss's power and celestials' power. those are feats thor HAS done. nothing you've said would lead me to believe genis' power is above a friggin' skyfather's let alone a celestials.
<<Also, yes, we have no proof on to what happenned with the killing of Eternity, but we did see Genis kill Entropy in ONE BLAST.>>
no proof. exactly. killed entropy? if he WAS an abstract he couldn't BE killed. as for killing him with one blast -- scan and context to judge that by would be helpful.
as far as destroying fleets -- and? ss has wiped out dozens of 'fleets' as well as legions of asgardians. did the imperial guard interfere? did genis battle gladiator? beating up starships is nothing. odin wants to stop fleets he stops time or erases them. no need to blast them. armadas have simultaneously attacked galactus /beforewhile he is feeding (hence not very powerful) and yet he never notices them.
using his ability to beat up starships doesn't amount to much. hell, ss could turn starships into a glass if he desired.
<<Also, he's shown he can overcome the boundaries of Death when he resurrected Burstaar after he KILLED him earlier in that issue.>>
was it actually proven he was truly dead? again, context and proof are necessary. again armando, many of these 'facts' are bruised in light of your 'he toyed with' king thor opinion. your word is not enough (no offense intended) i need some scans of this.
i AM willing to change my opinion, (i freely admit to knowing very little about genis) but you don't say someone is above skyfather without some solid proof backed by evidence. he seems to be at ss level to me. again, i'll need solid evidence before i'll believe he exceeds ss level, or regular thor level.
so no, you really didn't 'win', though this really isn't that sort of debate. i've asked for proof, you've given words. words that have been shown once already to be pure hyperbole. i admit my mind can be changed. but not without solid proof to back your claims.
genis is now FAR more powerful than kt?? oi vey . . .
just read any of the 3 most current New T-Bolts issues and ull see. for Example, instead of meeting Sentry's "unfathomable energies" head on, he just warped space and directed them away from him with wormholes. That's just oen easy example. He also sent the Purple Man to an unknown part of the multiverse where he would be lost forever. Therefore he "fried his brain" as Songbird said since the PM couldnt handle it.
And dude everything u just said Leonidas is total B.S. u have no idea wut ur talking about. Go actually buy and READ every issue of CM and then come back and talk to me when u know wut ur talking about.
Originally posted by armandovalles
just read any of the 3 most current New T-Bolts issues and ull see. for Example, instead of meeting Sentry's "unfathomable energies" head on, he just warped space and directed them away from him with wormholes. That's just oen easy example. He also sent the Purple Man to an unknown part of the multiverse where he would be lost forever. Therefore he "fried his brain" as Songbird said since the PM couldnt handle it.
Originally posted by The Ion
Oh. I thought you were talking about something different. GL and Surfer can open wormholes too. Photon directed them to the microverse.
I was under the impression he was absorbing Photons, from across space and time, by re directing them with Space warpage. (Radioaactive man made some reference 😮 ). I he was also opening wormholes between the 616 time frame and the house of M reality. How the hell can he do this. Has his powers been retconned from the old energy manipulation powers of the Nega bands ?
<<And dude everything u just said Leonidas is total B.S. u have no idea wut ur talking about. Go actually buy and READ every issue of CM and then come back and talk to me when u know wut ur talking about.>>
ahh, insults, the last refuge of the desperate . . .
leonidas says:
<<go ahead and prove it. aside from leon, no one 'round here believes it. just be sure to prove it through scans and feats that REALLY happened.>>
funny, i see no scans of these 'feats'. i wonder, would they show something as accurate as genis owning and toying with kt?
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you even begged for scans in your respect thread where you spouted all the same stuff. NO ONE GAVE YOU SCANS! what does that tell you? your list of feats reads more like something you pulled from the internet somewhere, or you pulled from some summaries' website. the one scan that was showed had him busting the neck of some 50 tonner! WHOOPDEE! hyperion >>>>>>>> burstarr (hell, SPIDERMAN beat blastarr!!) and gladiator broke HIS neck. does that mean glads>>>>>>>>>>>>>>odin??? maybe spidey>>>>>odin??
when loki tried to get ss to kill thor, ss went to asgard and WRECKED the place!! he was wiping out buildings and warriors left and right. he's done the same to 'armadas'.
genis shunted energy away from him rather than meet it head on -- so?? 😑 does that imply he couldn't have TAKEN the blast? thor (classic) could have simply absorbed it, like he's absorbed celestial power in the past. ss could likely have absorbed it as well.
oh, and kindly point out one piece of bs i said in my rebuttal, btw . . .
armando, i asked for proof of his deeds -- you gave none. you tell me to go buy his books. why? you say genis>skyfather. well . . . prove it! i don't mean TELL me he is (you also said he toyed with kt and owned kt -- based on the scans, one of the most ridiculous things i've ever heard on this forum) PROVE he is. the burden is on you. you repeatedly made the claim. yet, when you are asked to back it up, you have ZERO proof. don't be mad at me -- get proof of your claims. you haven't even proven to me he's more powerful than ss. (and no, catching thor who was clearly underestimating him with a shot doesn't count as proof -- odin went into his battle FULLY ready, so no, it is NOT the same thing or a fair comparison.)
does having NO proof of your position mean I win? 😉
bro no one gave me scans cuz it seems that no one has em except for Ion, who actually, for ur information u dumbass gave me ALOT of scans of Genis in the Comic Book Scans thread. so **** off. And dude, dont say im desperate when were arguing over a Genis topic. I HAVE EVERY CM ISSUE EVER PUT OUT OF GENIS! I HAVE ALL THE AVENGERS FOREVER ISSUES! I HAVE MOST OF HIS GUEST APPEARANCES! U DONT GOT NOTHING ON ME!
And bro, if i had scans i'd show u, but i dont! all i have is the scans posted in the Comic Book Scans thread, go check em out.
u know its only on kmc u find such a ****ED UP heirarchy. fanboys have completely distorted the whole very OBVIOUS power levels of many individuals they dont like. surfer seems to reaign supreme even to genis, sentry, doomsday, quaysar, and the fallen one, not to mention NATE GREY, CABLE and dr strange! i heard kgkg even try n put up an argument for him against franklin richards! yup FANBOYS!
<<bro no one gave me scans cuz it seems that no one has em except for Ion, who actually, for ur information u dumbass gave me ALOT of scans of Genis in the Comic Book Scans thread. so **** off. And dude, dont say im desperate when were arguing over a Genis topic. I HAVE EVERY CM ISSUE EVER PUT OUT OF GENIS! I HAVE ALL THE AVENGERS FOREVER ISSUES! I HAVE MOST OF HIS GUEST APPEARANCES! U DONT GOT NOTHING ON ME!>>
**** off?eer remind me again who started with the insults . . .?
good sound argument . . .
any proof yet? 😄
i win. 😆
<<it seems that no one has em except for Ion, who actually, for ur information u dumbass gave me ALOT of scans of Genis in the Comic Book Scans thread>>
dumbass?eer
oh, and this is what ion said earlier about your 'claim' . . .
<<The whole claim is ridiculous. Not only do they claim he beat Thor but they claim he toyed with him as well.
Almost as bad as the "Wolverine took a nuke" claim.>>
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