Yep, Guardian wins
Wolverine's claw attacks cannot break through Guardian's shield. Plus I posted the scans of Guardian (James) beating Wolverine in the Alpha Flight Respect thread [Here: http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=371981&perpage=20&pagenumber=1]
Originally posted by scotsmn
In defense of Wolverine, he wasn't prepared for this fight. Guardian had received some pretty massive upgrades. Wolverine underestimated him. Just read the scan.
So?
I fail to see the point ..... wolverine was acting irresponsible, lacking any sort of strategy sizing up the situation, jumping headfirst claws out.......sounds pretty much in -character........i see no problem 😬
Oh......and Guardian.
~wickerman~
true, but wolvie's not terribly known for making use of prep. what would he have done differently? guardian did give him a chance to talk things out. wolvie was the one who (after that initial burst from the ground) really got the fight going.
wolvie couldn't get through his shields AND guardian can fly.
i don't see how wolvie wins this when guardian can just keep his shield up and pummel him. always surprised me that hudson ko'd him like that though. guardian isn't really even all that strong.
just one more illustration in a career's worth of illustrations showing the inconsistency of the little hairball . . .
I think people are forgetting Guardian's powers are manipulating electromagnitivity. That would be Wolverine, if Guardian wanted it to be. This was his first time doing this trick.
"His battle suit, as Chris Claremont dubbed it, works almost like an artificial Magneto. It gives him localized control of the electro-magnetic field of the earth. This gives him the ability to fly, and to lift objects by negating gravitational effects. It also gives him the ability to render himself at rest, relative to the turning of the earth, which is how he does that disappearing trick of his, by suddenly taking off westward at a thousand miles an hour. "
Give him an acid bath:
A full power blast, can even kill being as durable as Sasquatch.
A teleportation trick [Mac can do this as well], plus without doing the teleportation trick he can go mach 1. Plus he is able to lift 3.5 tons without the mangnetic trick
He even took down Galactus on his own. [Wasn't at full power of course]
Leonidas your horible incorrect, if written correctly Guardian is very very strong. Oh hell just check out the respect thread there are many feats.
To say Wolverine would do nothing different is just plain wrong. He'd probably go for the face. Also, after taking a shot like the one that knocked him out doncha think he'd be less likely to stand in the way next time? I'm not saying Wolverine would win, I'm just saying it's not as one sided as you guys are saying. I'm also pretty sure that an extended fight would lead to a decrease in Guardian's suits ability to withstand blows.
Originally posted by scotsmn
To say Wolverine would do nothing different is just plain wrong. He'd probably go for the face. Also, after taking a shot like the one that knocked him out doncha think he'd be less likely to stand in the way next time? I'm not saying Wolverine would win, I'm just saying it's not as one sided as you guys are saying. I'm also pretty sure that an extended fight would lead to a decrease in Guardian's suits ability to withstand blows.
Go for the face? He was obviously not trying to kill....just like vindicator wasn't. Unless bloodlusted i doubt wolverine would go for the face just like that. I'm not sure if he was "standing in the way" or simply couldn't avoid the blast. Also, why would an extended fight lead to wolverine hitting vindicator ? (ergo decrease in his suit's field bla bla bla).
Vindicator can fly, shoot blasts strong enough to bring down galactus or kill sasquatch, electromagnetically control metal, ergo wolverine's body as well as other things, etc. etc. To me that IS one-sided 😬
~wickerman~
Originally posted by scotsmn
To say Wolverine would do nothing different is just plain wrong. He'd probably go for the face. Also, after taking a shot like the one that knocked him out doncha think he'd be less likely to stand in the way next time? I'm not saying Wolverine would win, I'm just saying it's not as one sided as you guys are saying. I'm also pretty sure that an extended fight would lead to a decrease in Guardian's suits ability to withstand blows.
He would go for the face and the same thing would happen....nothing. Wolverine's claws would not work. Mac can go Mach 1, there isn't much Wolverine can do to dodge. Also, after a full blast attacking Ravanger it only takes a second for his suit to recharge. Yet his sheild is still up and he is flying. His fight with Wolverine would not be long.
Guardian is a very strong fighter, out of Wolverine's league. Mac even now has a computer like mind, who can think faster than a normal human.
Alright, if he's that strong I can't argue. About the face though... is there some reference somewhere that says the forcefield his suit produces also covers his face and any other areas where skin is exposed? If that's the case, I can't see him ever getting harmed by a physical being... anyone got any scans to contradict this?
Originally posted by scotsmn
Alright, if he's that strong I can't argue. About the face though... is there some reference somewhere that says the forcefield his suit produces also covers his face and any other areas where skin is exposed? If that's the case, I can't see him ever getting harmed by a physical being... anyone got any scans to contradict this?
You can kind of see that in the picture.