Wolverine vs. Alpha Flight's Guardian

Originally posted by scotsmn
Alright, if he's that strong I can't argue. About the face though... is there some reference somewhere that says the forcefield his suit produces also covers his face and any other areas where skin is exposed? If that's the case, I can't see him ever getting harmed by a physical being... anyone got any scans to contradict this?

It's his whole body that is covered, hell his "helmet" is the thing that actually controls the suit. Also he can get harmed by physical contact, but the shield and suit blocks most of the attack. He even took a barage of boulders and his shiled protected him.

*Next page: "And, as Vindicator's force field pulverizes the Earthen projectiles..."

Like I said earlier, when Alpha Flight is written correctly and to the abilities they can actually do they are one of the strongest Marvel teams out there.

Originally posted by DarkCrawler

You can kind of see that in the picture.

Originally posted by scotsmn
No you can't 🙂

Actually yes you can. Notice that yellow aura around his body?...that's his shield.
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Thanks Creshosk for the color fixes.

He doesn't make any mention of getting hurt by those rocks. Can you find any scans where he does get hurt? How about a bloody nose? I'm asking the opposing side to show evidence to help my case 👿

What I'm looking for is an example of Guardian getting hurt despite his force field. If that can happen, he CAN be damaged by Wolverine.. and his face is probably the weakest link.

FYI, after seeing all those scans I give Wolverine 0/10 out in the open. Guardian has too many powers.

Originally posted by King_Mungi
It's his whole body that is covered, hell his "helmet" is the thing that actually controls the suit. Also he can get harmed by physical contact, but the shield and suit blocks most of the attack. He even took a barage of boulders and his shiled protected him.

*Next page: "And, as Vindicator's force field pulverizes the Earthen projectiles..."

Like I said earlier, when Alpha Flight is written correctly and to the abilities they can actually do they are one of the strongest Marvel teams out there.

when i said he wasn't that strong, i meant his suit didn't grant him GREAT physical strength. and it didn't. guardian was pretty powerful in that incarnation, but power-wise he still wasn't top tier.

but he still wins.

Alright, his field covers his whole body 😒 Does that mean he can't get hurt? No bloody noses?

Originally posted by scotsmn
He doesn't make any mention of getting hurt by those rocks. Can you find any scans where he does get hurt? How about a bloody nose? I'm asking the opposing side to show evidence to help my case 👿

What I'm looking for is an example of Guardian getting hurt despite his force field. If that can happen, he CAN be damaged by Wolverine.. and his face is probably the weakest link.

FYI, after seeing all those scans I give Wolverine 0/10 out in the open. Guardian has too many powers.

I'll try to upload some new scans, but I'm very busy [those scans I posted were already uploaded]. Except his facr is the strongest link since the helmet is what controls the suit. He almost got killed by Dr.Jiroult, who used a powerful anti-Hulk gun and it would have killed him if it wasn't for Shaman and Angel

Wolverine physically can't hurt him with his abilities, but others can. Such as Wendigo grabed a tree and smacked him with it and sent him flying

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/uxm140pg09av.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/uxm140pg10av.jpg

Inexperienced Heather, who just got the suit and didn't fully know how to use it punks a bunch of samurais and Lady Deathstrike. This just shows how strong the shield is

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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/AF34-15.jpg

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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/AF34-16.jpg

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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/AF34-17.jpg

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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/AF34-18.jpg

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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/AF34-19.jpg

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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v118/Nidaime-Sama/AF34-20.jpg
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Here, maybe you will like this pic 🙂 Was suppose to be for him anyways.

Alpha Flight has not been written to their full potential or to what they can actually do.

Originally posted by leonidas
when i said he wasn't that strong, i meant his suit didn't grant him GREAT physical strength. and it didn't. guardian was pretty powerful in that incarnation, but power-wise he still wasn't top tier.

but he still wins.

Actually it does, with it he can lift 3.5 tons...*shrugs*

Physical power-wise no he isn't, with all his abilities he is. The only other incarnation of Guardian is when heather got a new type of battle suit, which was powered by geothermic powers...that what you talking about?

Originally posted by scotsmn
Alright, his field covers his whole body 😒 Does that mean he can't get hurt? No bloody noses?

No, Guardian isn't invincible. Someone with sufficient power could hit him hard enough to eventually override the mechanics of the suit.
Logan just isn't one of them. 🙂

I have nothing left to say here.. I think I have proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that Wolverine wins this 20/10. 😛

Originally posted by roughrider
No, Guardian isn't invincible. Someone with sufficient power could hit him hard enough to eventually override the mechanics of the suit.
Logan just isn't one of them. 🙂

Bingo, it takes quite a deal of power but yes Guardian is far from invincible.

Originally posted by scotsmn
I have nothing left to say here.. I think I have proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that Wolverine wins this 20/10. 😛

You sir are a master-debator

Originally posted by King_Mungi
Bingo, it takes quite a deal of power but yes Guardian is far from invincible.

You sir are a master-debator

Ooh wait, I lied. WHAT IF... we were dealing with the version of Wolverine that was controlled by Apocalypse?

Originally posted by scotsmn
Ooh wait, I lied. WHAT IF... we were dealing with the version of Wolverine that was controlled by Apocalypse?

Yes, Death.

Well, Guardian still has those magnetic powers. I can't see Death Wolvie countering that...

Originally posted by Lucid Lui
Well, Guardian still has those magnetic powers. I can't see Death Wolvie countering that...

So it's hard to say. . .

Originally posted by Creshosk
Death Wolvie is the one who bested Hulk, Hard to say what a Wolverine amped by apocalypse could do. as a divergent timeline showed when Wolverine was amped by apocalypse he killed not only apocalypse but Magneto as well as juggernaut.

So it's hard to say. . .

Damn, do you know what issues that happened in?

Originally posted by scotsmn
Damn, do you know what issues that happened in?

Which is why there is alarge amount of doubt. We don't know exactly how powerful this War Wolverine (Warverine) was made and/or if the Villians in that universe were less powerful.

Originally posted by scotsmn
I have nothing left to say here.. I think I have proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that Wolverine wins this 20/10. 😛

Well, you sure showed us!
Just taking your claws and going home? 😛