Originally posted by cheldon
he's stronger, so he can hit harder.
That right there is enough to make me not believe anything else you say.
Using the right martial arts and application of said arts, a 95-lbs girl could hit SO MUCH harder than say...The Rock. It's all about technique, skill, and application, my friend.
Why do you think Bruce Lee was able to completely decimate opponents much larger and/or much stronger than him?
Originally posted by Blair Wind
adamantuim futile? DD punches him and his bones break....for once wolvie wins....
And yet no one, save for Sabretooth (somehow, don't ask me), has broken their hand when hitting Wolverine.
Cyclops has punched him square in the face. His hand was fine.
DD punches him all the time. His hands are fine.
Spidey's hands never break.
I'm sensing a trend here...
Originally posted by Blair Wind
but thats piss poor writing....if we look at it logically, if you punch a admantium wall full force your hands gonna break....and theres not enough meat on the face to absorb the punch....so yes...DD's hands break....yes...i actually said it...wolvie wins....
So that's been your logic? It can't be poor writing if it's only happened once out of the several thousand times he's been punched.
Dude, if you punch a wall of almost anything solid, your hand is going to break. Adamantium has nothing to do with it. It's the fact that it's a wall that will break your hand. It's stationary, not going anywhere.
Wolverine, on the other hand, will reel back with a hit. He's not stationary. He's just a moving piece of adamantium.
If you punched a mid-air rock-sized portion of adamantium, you wouldn't break your hand at all. In fact, you'd send that rock flying.
Here, I have another example.
Baseball bat against an adamantium wall. Bat breaks, right?
Baseball bat against an adamantium baseball. Bat is JUUUUUST fine, and sends the baseball flying.
Understand?
Originally posted by Blair Wind
gotcha....but the punch will still hurt as hell.......Im still gonna say wolvie for other reasons than that....but I think DD is awesome but outclassed here...
Okay, that's fine. I guess I can't change your mind, and that's cool. I just wanted to clear that little thing up is all.
Metal, your logic about not breaking your hand because something isn't stationary isn't right. The force of impact is what would determine if his hand broke. The faster he hits.. and the more weight he has behind the punch, the greater the force. The fact that his head whips back only means that the force will stop at some point as the head reaches the speed of the slowed down punch but the damage has already been done.
Anyway, I'm not counting on this as a necessity for Wolverine to win. He has far too many other advantages, namely, 1-hit killing power, regenerative abilities, unbreakable bones.
Originally posted by scotsmn
Metal, your logic about not breaking your hand because something isn't stationary isn't right. The force of impact is what would determine if his hand broke. The faster he hits.. and the more weight he has behind the punch, the greater the force. The fact that his head whips back only means that the force will stop at some point as the head reaches the speed of the slowed down punch but the damage has already been done.Anyway, I'm not counting on this as a necessity for Wolverine to win. He has far too many other advantages, namely, 1-hit killing power, regenerative abilities, unbreakable bones.
And yet, they do it all the time, without damaging your fists.
Believe me, I understand your logic. I'm just not convinced of it, since Wolverine gets punched by everyone and their mom and doesn't hurt thier hands. It's all about the application, really. If they have absolutely no training, they're going to hurt themselves really when they punch Logan. Anyone with ANY sort of training, however, will be just fine.
Martial artists punching through several concrete slabs anyone?
I have no doubts that Wolverine can connect on slashes, but i just dont think hed deliver the fatal blow to put DD down for good. Hes taken slashes from Wolvie, diamond form Absorbing Man, Sabertooth, Samurai Katanas and still continued fighting. Wolverine would have to actually gut him to keep him down, and i just dont see it happenning.
I think Wolverines only chane is to outfight Daredevil and tire him, but who knows how long that would take. Ive never personally seen DD tire in a fight. Has anyone else?
Originally posted by Metalmanx
And yet, they do it all the time, without damaging your fists.Believe me, I understand your logic. I'm just not convinced of it, since Wolverine gets punched by everyone and their mom and doesn't hurt thier hands. It's all about the application, really. If they have absolutely no training, they're going to hurt themselves really when they punch Logan. Anyone with ANY sort of training, however, will be just fine.
Martial artists punching through several concrete slabs anyone?
I think the reason people don't break their hands when they punch through bricks is because the bricks break before maxiumum force is applied. If the bricks didn't break then your hand would receive the full impact instead of sharing it with the brick. I'm not too great at explaining this. But you'll see guys with broken fingers/hands all the time when the bricks don't break (and sometimes when they do)
Yes he could. Wolverine doesn't have those limitations though... all areas on DD are good. So, Wolverine has an extra foot of length on his arms, can attack DD anywhere for excellent damage, has an unbreakable skeleton and can heal from DD's miniscule attacks (compared to others he has fought).
DD has... a higher level of skill... yeah I think that covers it.
Let's not forget that Wolverine is a small guy, meaning that there's less of him to hit, meaning that going for the "soft spots" is even more difficult.