Revan,Bastila and Juhani versus Exile,Aprendice and Kreya

Originally posted by Darth Traya
Oh, that's certainly true. But Juhani will have to stand back from Bastila's double sabre, only enabling one to strike at at time.

Well, They could take on Exile from both sides (front and back)
something like, bastila distract exile for a while, then Juhani comes from the back and 🤣 , there goes exiles head.

Kreia could smash Bastila and Juhani in a few seconds. If she can toss the Head of the Guardians, the de facto leader of the Jedi and another senior council member around like ragdolls, she can most certainly obliterate Bastila and Juhani. I give them ten seconds at tops.

Originally posted by Darth Traya
Kreia could smash Bastila and Juhani in a few seconds. If she can toss the Head of the Guardians, the de facto leader of the Jedi and another senior council member around like ragdolls, she can most certainly obliterate Bastila and Juhani. I give them ten seconds at tops.

And that is where doubts start to appear.

Kreia could have for all we know used the Exile to channel her powers, this seems a very logical assumption when you consider all the things we know about her and the Exile and Nihilus.

And if Kreia only has a second of no defence Revan could probably take it and kill her. Battle Pre Cog is going to be nice in that situation.

maybe it was a mistake to put disciple on this thread, nobody is at his side. lol

Slightly off topic but,

Juhani is about a Ventress equivelent, I would say. Not a rediculous threat to the Jedi Order, but if you don't know what you are doing, then you are going to end up dead. She is maybe a little better than Ventress in saber combat, but Ventress has better stealth, piloting, etc.

Sound right?

i know almost everybody knows, but who is Ventress?

Assaj Ventress, a Dark Jedi in the time of the clone wars. She is in the Clone Wars cartoon.

http://www.starwars.com/databank/character/asajjventress/index.html

oh that one. i saw the cartoon but didnt pay attention to names 😛
well any star wars cartoon character would easily win against Neo Trinity and Morpheus together if you know what i mean.

Sre you sure Juhani is as strong as her?

No, I'm not sure, it's more of a gut feeling. And TCW exaggerates characters (especially Mace Windu and Yoda). Add in the fact that we don't know much of Juhani's abilities, and it's really just a guess on my part, but it seems right to me.

Originally posted by Fishy
Kreia could have for all we know used the Exile to channel her powers, this seems a very logical assumption when you consider all the things we know about her and the Exile and Nihilus.

Well...while I agree with you on that point: She has the Exile with her in this fight so she might be able to instakill the entire enemy team (or at least Bastilla and Juhani) using him as focus.

Revan and Kreia would duke it out, assuming Kreia would ever attack Revan, which I find unlikey.

Bastila would fight off the Exile, but would die after a while. Juhani could hold off Brianna, possibly even defeat her.

Anyway, Revan would kill Kreia and then go help Bastila. Then together they would go waste the Exile.

Originally posted by Borbarad
Well...while I agree with you on that point: She has the Exile with her in this fight so she might be able to instakill the entire enemy team (or at least Bastilla and Juhani) using him as focus.

Please don't take this as me attacking your belief since recently we have been doing that a lot to eachother, but what makes the Exile seem to be a focus point for her instakill technique?

Originally posted by Darth_Glentract
Revan and Kreia would duke it out, assuming Kreia would ever attack Revan, which I find unlikey.

Bastila would fight off the Exile, but would die after a while. Juhani could hold off Brianna, possibly even defeat her.

Anyway, Revan would kill Kreia and then go help Bastila. Then together they would go waste the Exile.

Brianna? Do you mean handmaiden?

Yes. That's her real name.

Originally posted by Fishy
Say what... the Exile flurries Juhani and Bastila to death.. You are heavily underestimating those two there.

i said the exile flurries juhani to dead and kreia kills bastilla. I think they can do it really fast.

Originally posted by Fishy
And that is where doubts start to appear.

Kreia could have for all we know used the Exile to channel her powers, this seems a very logical assumption when you consider all the things we know about her and the Exile and Nihilus.

And if Kreia only has a second of no defence Revan could probably take it and kill her. Battle Pre Cog is going to be nice in that situation.

She uses the Exile to channel a force wave? What, that's nonsense. Perhaps that's true for the insta-kill attack, but not for her other powers.

Even if that is true, the Exile is present at the fight. Kreia vastly outclasses Juhani and Bastila/

Originally posted by Darth Traya
Traya quite blatently threw the fight with the Exile. Oh and Kreia would most certainly not lose against Revan.

The Exile has far more experience than Bastila and Juhani, although the Handmaiden has been trained to subdue Jedi, so she might be able to beat one of them.

Kreia did not throw the fight. She tried everything in her power to have the Exile killed. He *NEEDED* to die to fulfill her plans. She even pitted Four Lightsabers against him. Traya was not as strong as the Exile was.

Originally posted by Sorgo
Kreia did not throw the fight. She tried everything in her power to have the Exile killed. He *NEEDED* to die to fulfill her plans. She even pitted Four Lightsabers against him. Traya was not as strong as the Exile was.

Hmm, I smell bullshit.

Anyway, why is it that Kreia can't beat the Exile, when she quite clearly knocked him out on Dantooine?

"I do not want your pity, I want to break you."

She does not want to kill the Exile, just make him break. Even then, why bother training the Exile? She could have fulfilled her plans on Peragus when he was unarmed and half naked.

Plus, in the cut content she does not want to kill the Exile. Just make him feel despair, hence why she and Sion mash up the Exile's henchmen.

Originally posted by Darth_Glentract
Please don't take this as me attacking your belief since recently we have been doing that a lot to eachother, but what makes the Exile seem to be a focus point for her instakill technique?

Before killing the masters on Dantooine she said she will make them feel what the Exile felt. And what she did after this killed them.

So...what has she done ?

a)
She could have cut off the masters connection to the force but that doesn't kill people (Ulic, the Exile, Kyle Katarn, Jerec all survived that).

b)
She could have confronted them with the impressions the Exile had (being responsible for all the killing on Malachor V) before he cut his connection to the force in order to survive this impressions hitting him through the force. That is by any means a very powerful technique but you can argue that she needed the Exile around to do that either to have access to that impressions or to use the Exiles force connections to the people.

The description on the death councillors says the force was drained from them. Drained so much that they actually died..

Nobody can do that except for Nihilus and the Exile... For all we know Kreia did not have this much power it would be inlogical and everything seems to suggest otherwise. So its very likely that Kreia channelled the attack through the Exile.