Paris Riots.

Originally posted by GCG
To stigmatise or not to stigmatise ; that is the issue. The french had their own colonies, just like the english, the spanish and the dutch.

France had Algeria, Tunisia, Morocco, Ivory Coast, Senegal etc.

It was all about power and control over foreign lands back then. With democracy in place and the fall of Imperialism, they are reaping what they sowed.

These so called minorities, are in costraints and are not being allowed the same day-to-day life of the well rooted French Society.

I just cant see why this problem is having such an effect in mainland europe, but not so much in the UK.

Originally posted by GCG

France had Algeria, Tunisia, Morocco, Ivory Coast, Senegal etc.

It was all about power and control over foreign lands back then. With democracy in place and the fall of Imperialism, they are reaping what they sowed.

To add to that point:

What the French economy got from a handfull of those countries:

Ivory Coast:

The production of exports. Coffee, cocoa and palm oil crops were soon planted along the coast. As a result, a third of the cocoa, coffee and banana plantations were in the hands of French citizens.

Senegal

Slave Trade.

Algeria

The French colonials exploited the country's agricultural resources for the benefit of France.

Morocco & Tunisia

French Protectorates ; any business other countries would have with Tunisia & Morocco would become business with French Administration.

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So now the descendants of those countries are allowed to live in France and have formal frnch citizenship, yet these riots are proving otherwise a wake-up call when it comes down to the rights French Society in general is not giving these minorities.

Bottom line:

France benefitteed from these countries and Society in general does not give them the same easiness as the French descendants are being given.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Prove it. You can't. All I am saying is that other people feel differently, and until you can prove your point, that will not go away. 😄

Do not read anything more into this post. I do not know and do not care.

All I read in your posts is that you are an uniformed halfwit who enjoys getting people upset with your ignorant comments.

Originally posted by Shakyamunison

Thanks, I'm not able to keep up on the news.

If you have the ability to access this forum via the internet then you have the ability to keep up on the news.

Originally posted by Tptmanno1
What is so dangerous about these riots is that there really isn't any demands, nothing that can really STOP them. They are just really really mad. And basically leaderless. No one is telling them to riot, or giving any direction to their cause or whatever. They are just really pissed and taking it out on the citys.

Have to disagree with you there T, if Sarkozy (sp) would resign and apologize (or even better then entire french government apologizes) it would be a lot better now.

According to Radio 1 the riots are slowly settling due to the curfew set by the government.

Originally posted by Bardock42
We are innocent.

😆 😆 😆

there's a first time for everything with you Germans

😉 😆

all these riots because 2 people died while running from police or what they thought were the police

ironically some people are saying its a response to the way muslims are being treated throughout the world in the war on terror...despite the fact that France were more opposed to the war than any other western country

i personally think its far more to do with the 30% rate of unemployment within the affected communities...

its also due to the fact that the french authorities left a void of power because of lack of local government in the affected areas...

Originally posted by jaden101
i personally think its far more to do with the 30% rate of unemployment within the affected communities...

I agree totally. The only point I would make is that, even outside of this situation, unemployment rates are only one part of the problem in regards to poverty. Let's not forget that unemployment is one thing...low paying jobs that yeild a wage you can't support yourself or your family on, would be another part of it.

I heard that over 5 million Muslims live in France. If there are that many of them they should have a strong presence in the govt(thats almost 10% of the total population). Like here in Canada there are about a million south Asians and there is about ten members of parliament that are south Asian and one is the health minister. Is there many Muslims in govt in France or they are not allowed to? It is important that there are minorities in govt because it tells minorities your in the process as well and the country accepts you.

I assume they are allowed, don't see why they wouldn't be allowed, wether or not they actually have a strong presence in the govt I do not know, doubt it tho.

Originally posted by jaden101
ironically some people are saying its a response to the way muslims are being treated throughout the world in the war on terror...despite the fact that France were more opposed to the war than any other western country

hahahahhahahhahahaha the french are getting theirs!!!!!

Originally posted by yerssot
errrr... grab a map and look at the country that's just to the north of France: Belgium.
THEY were the first to oppose the war, THEY were the one that got blocked on the US Trade and THEY got into big political troubles. THEY were the ones that inspired France and Germany to follow.

yeah...but who listens to Belgium?...no really...who?

France held veto power over the Iraq vote and were the only country with such power to say they would definitely use it

Originally posted by jaden101
yeah...but who listens to Belgium?...no really...who?
France and Germany apparently.

Um France and Germany did.

Originally posted by Da preacher
Um France and Germany did.

yeah...i'm sure they went that way because of Belgium and not because of their oil deals with the hussein regime that would be worthless if the regime was removed from power

but thats another argument for another thread

This is a problem which will become more common place in many countries eventually. Some one said not to turn this into anti muslim thread, difficult seeing as muslims are the at the root of the majority of voilence in the world today.

The problem is when the majority of Muslims move to a foreign country they expect that country to adapt to them not vice versa. And when this doesn´t happen or the authorities crack down on activities which arn´t tolerated in the host country then they do what is commom in the Muslim world nowadays, resort to voilence.

In some parts of bradford in the UK english women get hassled and hit if they walk through some muslim areas without the correct attire,
in Germany some Turks cut goats throats in the open upsetting niegbours, insist that thier girls can wear head scarfs in school even though these practices are not allowed in TURKEY.

Eventually the people in these countries are gonna get peeved off and then the crap´l hit the fan, especially if these terrorist attacks continue. just hope there isn´t another genocide around the corner.

I have many muslim friends so I don´t like the look of the future, the majority suffer because of the mad minority

It seems they are still going on.

Sure it's not some sort of holiday....like "Louie the XVI" day?

Originally posted by Bicnarok
... seeing as muslims are the at the root of the majority of voilence in the world today.

The problem is when the majority of Muslims move to a foreign country they expect that country to adapt to them not vice versa. And when this doesn´t happen or the authorities crack down on activities which arn´t tolerated in the host country then they do what is commom in the Muslim world nowadays, resort to voilence.

Do you wanna know why they are riots in france, because of the bloody immigrants and it wont be long before it will start all over europe. Which i hope it does!!!!!!!!!!!