Why would a Sith Lord be called The Wise when Yoda wasn't?

Started by bilb5 pages

Originally posted by Spearhead

Should Yoda be called wise? How could he miss Palpatine? Granted, the man was powerful, but still...the signs were all there. He misses Anakin's marriage, Palpatine's manipulations of the Senate, Jango Fett's true purpose, and when it comes down to fighting it out, Palpy vapes him.

All Yoda does is spout on about how old people are for training, or being prepared to lose everything, or not to get mad...not particularly wise...

Preach it brotha!! I friggin HATE Yoda anymore.. I know thats blasphemy & all but its true.. stupid damn frog has no clue about anything he professes to be an expert in.. 😠

and dont mock those of us who hold SW so near & dear.. we have nothing else to cling to cry

😛

Originally posted by bilb
Preach it brotha!! I friggin HATE Yoda anymore.. I know thats blasphemy & all but its true.. stupid damn frog has no clue about anything he professes to be an expert in.. 😠

and dont mock those of us who hold SW so near & dear.. we have nothing else to cling to cry

😛

I couldn't agree more! Right on! And the thing about Yoda not having a clue about anything he claims to be an expert in? Yeah... sounds like some people on these forums. *cough* JP *cough*

Originally posted by palpy_666
I couldn't agree more! Right on!

A fellow Yoda hater!! Woot! Go us!! :😄

all two of us 😐

Palpy...don't be an azzhat.

And I thought I made it fairly obvious...I hate Yoda...

woo.. 3!! 😱

love yoda he's so kool, but the reson he has not been given an extra name ie. the wise, the short, the nugget, is because he is not dead yet and once he is he will be givven a kool name.

I loved him in ESB but he just plain sucks in the PT 😠

Grrrrrrr 🥷

Originally posted by DarkYoda
Grrrrrrr 🥷

rawr droolio

*cough*

Might I remind everyone that namecalling is bashing and against the rules?

Originally posted by palpy_666
I couldn't agree more! Right on! And the thing about Yoda not having a clue about anything he claims to be an expert in? Yeah... sounds like some people on these forums. *cough* JP *cough*

Talking about yourself again? Don't try to fester old fights, it's pure stupidity.

Lana, use the smilie! The OT one!

Yay! Excuse to use it!

😄

Hurray for DY's VICTORY!!!

Originally posted by Jedi Priestess
oh I'm sorry, ridiculous theories ARE knowledgeable?

I dont profess to know nearly everything there is to know about Star Wars, but I do know one thing. You are an idiot. ✅

On that note, Im going to bed. Nite kids. 🙂

Aww...JP doesn't really know everything, and when she doesn't she can't just stand up and take it...she get's childish.

Originally posted by Lana
*cough*

Might I remind everyone that namecalling is bashing and against the rules?

And then...PWNED!

Originally posted by Lana
*cough*

Might I remind everyone that namecalling is bashing and against the rules?

Yeah, it is against the rules... but guess what? How do you know this "JP" I mentioned is JediPriestess? You don't! And that's the sheer beauty of it. I could've meant... say, "Jolly Prunes" or something.

Besides, it was JediPriestess who "name called" me. I was called an "idiot". But it's been reported anyways.

Originally posted by Lana
*cough*

Might I remind everyone that namecalling is bashing and against the rules?

Very True Lana. 👆

And I will remind the rest of you people that constant member bashing is one way ticket out of KMC. Next person to derailed this thread is outta here. So more of this nonsense.

Originally posted by Ast
But didnt Lucas say he left the father thing open for the viewer to make up their own mind?
Originally posted by Jedi Priestess
Nope, where did you hear that?

It was all over the forum and the web after the premiere of RotS in May.

Im thinking the fact that I took 3 months off after ROTS is probably why I wasnt aware of this.

Originally posted by palpy_666
I whole heartedly agree.

I am getting tired of people downing the Sith and there credibility just because everyone thinks Star Wars is about good triumphing over evil... Star Wars is not about this... Star Wars is about good AND evil (well, what people presume to be good or evil, remember, "good is a point of view..."😉.

In the opening titles of Episode III, it says something very interesting... "There are heroes on BOTH sides. Evil is everywhere." This indeed is profound. One man's good is another man's evil. And so we see that Palpatine is correct in saying "good is a point of view...".

I don't believe Palpatine was lying to Anakin at all. In fact, I believe that, to create a perfect Apprentice, Palpatine used the knowledge he aquired from Plagueis and created Anakin. He used some sort of Sith ritual to impregnate a woman far into the outer rim... so that way the Jedi Order couldn't identify Skywalker as a Force potential. Palpatine wanted his perfect Apprentice to grow up having attachments-- so that way when he was indeed found by the Jedi, it would be much easier to seduce him since he had something to play on-- in this case, Anakin's need for things.

And concerning Plagueis being called "The Wise"... why can't you imagine a Sith being wise? What do you have against the Sith? Do you think they're stupid, moronic, and dumb? I don't think so. Look at the sheer genius of Palpatine executing everything just perfectly over the vast amount of years to gain what he wanted. He fooled the entire Jedi Order, he fooled the Senate, and he fooled the entire Republic. The Sith are indeed very wise and very powerful. Many of you who think Star Wars is ultimately about good triumphing over evil (despite what GL said in some random interview) need to reconsider.

Heroes on both sides just meant there were systems on the seperatist side who honestly believed in their cause, and believed Dooku's line about corruption - not realizing that Dooku and Sidious were just manipulating both sides against the middle to gain power for the Sith; nothing more.
I can't accept the idea that being a Sith makes you wise, from a different point of view. Becoming a Sith and embracing the Dark Side, your life eventually becomes about lusting for power; more you use the Dark Side, the more power you want. That's why it became neccessary to limit the amount of Sith at a time - everyone eventually wants to rule, and would kill their master to do so. That's what helped to undo the Sith a thousand years earlier. Palpatine knows, despite Anakin saying he's doing it for Padme, the Dark Side will fill him so much he won't care anymore about loved ones, and we see how he eventually is compelled to lash out at her, and nearly kill her.

I believe that Darth Plaigus did create Anakin and not Palpatine for the reason that a person who can create life can keep people from dying, but this when asked by Anakin, Palpatine said only one man had achieved that power.

The point that was made in the earlier post is an interesting one...meditate on this I will.