Why would a Sith Lord be called The Wise when Yoda wasn't?

Originally posted by Numo
When I first heard about Darth Plagus The Wise I wondered why a Sith Lord had gained that title from the Sith of all Orders, when the Jedi had not given the same title to Yoda or Sifer Dyas.
I could understand him being called the Knowledgable but the Wise.

Secondly, why did influence the mediclorians to create Anakin? Did he feel that balance had to brought to the Force?

Originally posted by palpy_666
Yeah, it is against the rules... but guess what? How do you know this "JP" I mentioned is JediPriestess? You don't! And that's the sheer beauty of it. I could've meant... say, "Jolly Prunes" or something.

Besides, it was JediPriestess who "name called" me. I was called an "idiot". But it's been reported anyways.

It was aimed at everyone, not you specifically.

And I'm aware that it was reported, I am a mod here.

Only a moderator deals in absolutes. I shall do what I must.

But aren't the jedi supposed to be humble and seemingly poor people? Adding titles is likely to only get it's bearer proud. And the jedi are supposed to "only think about others". Not much room for extra names or ranks , is there?

Originally posted by Lana
It was aimed at everyone, not you specifically.

And I'm aware that it was reported, I am a mod here.

hence the reason I shut up 🙂

Palpy_666, tlbauerle, please, just bite your tongues! I've had enough of your childish picking at JP (and no, Palpy, you don't mean 'Jolly Prunes'😉; if anything, you're falling to what you consider to be her level, though she's clearly above you if she does not respond to your pathetic antics. Bite you tongues. WD and Lana have already said this, and this is the second time I've said this in here. Bite. Your. Tongues.

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Anyways, I don't like the theory that Plagueis created Anakin. Takes the mystery out of it, makes him less mystical and mythological. Makes him more of a whiney little tool.

And Sesse, you'd be right, but there is still the matter of being a Padawan, a Knight, a Master, or THE Grandmaster, which is Yoda's position.

Darth Plagueis could create life...DP created Anakin in sone secret plan for a Super-Sith...God. This is a serious debate?

HELLO? Palpatine was MAKING IT ALL UP! Don't you get it?
He knew about Anakin's situation with Padme, and his thoughts about the potential risk to her. Creating this story about DP (who may be real; its unconfirmed) having the ability to create life and stop death was the straw for Anakin to grasp at. And once he swore allegiance to Palpatine, he could be pressed further to the Dark Side, like how "we need to work together to uncover the secret." First, oh, kill all the Jedi at the temple, then the Seperatist leadership, then you'll be strong enough! Hook-Line-Sinker.
As for half-admissions by George Lucas or Rick McCallum, there are people on here who would find bombshell meanings in George's fingernail clippings! 😆
Afetr all these decades, I wonder if GL ever goes home rubbing his hands in glee - "Heh heh messed with their heads again!" 😄

I agree, though there is the possibility that Plagueis could do SOMETHING to that degree. Creating Anakin is completely unfeasible though, and ruins his story.

No doubt and his mystique I think.

Yeah... I really I don't like the idea. It takes away from the story if he was created by the Sith.... the fact that he fell is much more powerful without it.

Originally posted by roughrider
Palpatine called him that. You think it was true? I think it was just to make him sound more grandure to Anakin's ears.

Don't let your personal feelings get in the way. Any one who's listened to the commentary knows that DP created Anakin, whether you choose to believe it or not, search you feelings...you know don't you.

Originally posted by Numo
Don't let your personal feelings get in the way. Any one who's listened to the commentary knows that DP created Anakin, whether you choose to believe it or not, search you feelings...you know don't you.

Uh no, I dont KNOW anything of the sort. Sorry.

Originally posted by Numo
Don't let your personal feelings get in the way. Any one who's listened to the commentary knows that DP created Anakin, whether you choose to believe it or not, search you feelings...you know don't you.

because darth sidious told us?
lord knows he never told a lie 🙄

I would say that Darth Plageous is real and not mythical. That look of pure glee and smugness on Palpatine's face when he tells Anakin about killing Plageous is just too real.

but do you not find it strange that he referred to it as a legend?
apparently the only ones with knowledge of this 'legend' would have been
maul and dooku, both dead.

Kids, I wish we lived in a world were good people never told lies, even little white lies in order to spare someones feelings and evil people never told the truth...but i'm afraid that the world is just not that cut and dry.

Neither is Star Wars. The characters are complicated, so is the plot as well as understanding the Force.

Did you really think GL would make it that simple for us. Palpatine said it therefore it must be a lie...please get serious!

How do you know it was a lie? Someone had to be Palp's master

I'm uncertain as to why a lot of you are ignoring what Rick McCallum said in the commentary during the Opera scene... He says that Palpatine mentions things such as "Anakin's origns". Palpatine never said anything about Anakin's origins UNLESS it is true that Darth Plagueis or Sidious created him.

And who cares about Anakin's "mystique". In fact, he doesn't have any! I have to admit, GL didn't do a very good job at establishing the fact that Anakin was the chosen one. Of course we were told that he was, but something more could've been added to the story to amplify this point. Like in the Matrix, for instance... Morpheus made a big deal about Neo being "The One". But in SW, everyone seems to shrug off the fact that they are in the presence of someone spoken of in ancient prophecy that will affect the fate of the entire galaxy.

Originally posted by palpy_666
I'm uncertain as to why a lot of you are ignoring what Rick McCallum said in the commentary during the Opera scene... He says that Palpatine mentions things such as "Anakin's origns". Palpatine never said anything about Anakin's origins UNLESS it is true that Darth Plagueis or Sidious created him.

You are not necessarily right about this. As it has been pointed out...

"Now there's a hint in the movie that there was a Sith lord who had the power to create life. But it's left unsaid: Is Anakin a product of a super-Sith who influenced the midichlorians to create him, or is he simply created by the midichlorians to bring forth a prophecy, or was he created by the Force through the midichlorians? It's left up to the audience to decide. How he was born ulitmately has no relationship to how he dies, because in the end, the prophecy is true: Balance comes back to the Force." - George Lucas.. Rolling Stone

So it IS really up to each of us how this plays out apparently. Hence there is no point in arguing it anymore.

apparently GL is wrong and fanboy is right, as per the usual