Tournament Finals! *fanfare*

Started by Scoobless18 pages
Originally posted by Creshosk
a perfectly heathy Venom allowed himself to be chained up and weakened solely by the fire. . .

well duh... 🙄

Venom has a healing or regenerative power doesn't he? if the fire wasn't there he'd have been at full health in no time... the point is that the fire kept the symbiote subdued and unable to escape without trickery

Originally posted by Creshosk
he's still able to become strong enough once the gun is sabatoaged to break the chain to free himself and take his host with him. Oh but that gun's not important. . .

the gun wasn't just sabotaged... it gave him back most of the mass of his symbiote (somehow) it wasn't just a case of "gun stop firing = Venom break free" as you're trying to make it sound

Originally posted by Scoobless
well duh... 🙄

Venom has a healing or regenerative power doesn't he? if the fire wasn't there he'd have been at full health in no time... the point is that the fire kept the symbiote subdued and unable to escape without trickery

funny how when tthe gun was sapped he broke free.

Originally posted by Scoobless
the gun wasn't just sabotaged... it gave him back most of the mass of his symbiote (somehow) it wasn't just a case of "gun stop firing = Venom break free" as you're trying to make it sound
And the fire was still insufficient to keep him there after healed by the gun. . .

Yeah a healthy venom with Sabertooth amped healing is real threatened by fire. . .

Even in his still weakened(as you kindly pointed out with that last scan) state the fire didn't hold him.

it was a desperation move that got him out... nothing more

and it wasn't just the gun being sapped... the gun actually strengthened him... that's what gave him the power to break free

even with that boost he couldn't do much more than break free and run away

Originally posted by Scoobless
it was a desperation move that got him out... nothing more

and it wasn't just the gun being sapped... the gun actually strengthened him... that's what gave him the power to break free

even with that boost he couldn't do much more than break free and run away

but strong enough to overcome the fire. 😉

we need a recap on this whole scenario between venom and carnage.

First wee need to take a gander at what happened previous to all this since it's kind of important. Venom shows up to new york in order to kill carnage, when he hunts carnage down the wherehouse they are in explodes into flames, venom survives. Venom then goes to fight carnage, they are on even ground. Eventually Venom faces off with shriek and walks right through her blast, unfortunately by the end of that display of balls he's nearly out of symbiote and finds carnage and shreik waiting for him instead of just shreik. They curbstomp him unconcious since it's just his human body open to the blows. Then they take him and put him over the fire to keep the symbiote from gaining any momentum, when it does gain momentum in it's regeneration carnage blasts it with his sonic gun. During the rest of the time spent there, there is a pretty clear indication that carnage was torturing brock, cutting him, gutting him, etc etc. So while this incident is a decent display of showing what fire can do (keep at bay.... if that) to a symbiote after the symbiote's mass has been reduced to 10% of it's self, while it's being blasted if it reforms any more than that, and while the host's healing abilities are being pushed to their max due to torture to his/her body...

it however is not a good display of venom's durability vs. flames when he is not exhausted from constant battle and then torture (which is again, durabile enough to take an exploding gas tanker without noticing it)...

while it's true the sonic gun feeded venom back a peice of his symbiote that had been regenerating inside the gun it also true that symply having his symbiote back doesn't make him automatically stronger than before in terms of pain threshold.

in any case.. here's some of the torture that's implied in the story...

more torture...

as for venom when he's not been in contiunous battle and/or torture..

(actually he just handed the jury and spiderman their collective ass before this but who's counting....lol)

here he is fighting drake in an inferno.

and winning...

Originally posted by long pig
Spiderman doesn't take any real shots in MK3 from Electro, he only gets beaned with metal. Spiderman can dodge electricity, he has pre-cog.

When Electro DID hit him in the end, it K.O'd him.

ORLY?

yes spiderman can dodge electricity and he did so in that very fight but he took a great many many things from electro in that fight...

and yeah.. he did take some "real shots" 🙄

did you read the same book I did? 🤨

I didn't know getting sent airborne meant you weren't taking a "real shot", I didn't know that taking an explosion that would level a building top meant you weren't taking real shots... pfffttt

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hell when he DOES get KOed it's not even by electro... but rather, the fall.... doh

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Match Closed!

Jinzin is the winner!

Congrats to both. I'll do a full rundown in the discussion thread.

good match lp way to go getting to the finals and all.. although with docshock that was pretty much a given.. well done bro. 😉

yeah it was a good match

TBK owns...