Tournament Finals! *fanfare*

Alright, now that that's over....I really hoped for more since you had a week. 🙄

So, it's basically me killing him with one or two hits, magnetically controlling his body and cutting him up.

Shocktopus is:
Faster?

nope... I've already argued this.. speed freak has shown to have a considerable amount of forward moving speed... in terms of reflexive and combative speeds? well... that's something that still needs to be proven.. which.. even IF you could.. wouldn't give you an advantage.. I'm pushing the cap limits for every aspect of speed.. speed freak as yet to be proven..
Stronger?

hell no.... he's not stronger than a 10 ton lifting sabretooth with a venom symbiote and feral rage to further strengthen the symbiote's strength and speed factors..

More durable?

HELL NO.... you're armor's been reduced to titanium...

I have one character that takes a barrage of sasquatch hits to the face with a smile... and another who shrugged off an assault by juggernaught while talking trash... in what way exactly are you more durable? 🤨...

Shocktopus has:
Better weapons?

which I've made useless with my inginuity.

More weapons.?

not really.. my combination of long range, mid range, and h2h weapons put me at a larger advantage in terms of numbers..

Better mobility

against someone with more agility than spiderman?.. hardly. you need to prove it first.

ALL his weaknesses.
which I've proven (as dizzle pointed out) aren't really my weaknesses.... and yet have been totally negated by my shield/web/web/web armor anyways...

He can't hide behind his webbing, the adamantium coils go straight through.- which would be why I'm using energy shields and energy webbing for my protection as well... but as I said.. if we're that close it's already too late for you.

The webbing will only slow down his movement making it easier to get him and light him up from the inside with a single attack while simultaneously beating him with super strong tentacles and lasers and adamantium blades.-

you mean like it does spiderman? oh wait that's right.. spiderman kicks the crap out of electro CONSTANTLY... electro already had his chance at Venom.. he failed. things aren't changing here..

Originally posted by TwisterGameX
are u kidding me...thats all he said after that long ass post of good shit ?

it's called misdirection.. he has no real argument to give so he avoids my own.

Originally posted by jinzin
something I found interesting in relation of my battle with scoobs... venom's ability to block spiderman's spider sense was a learned technique not an inherent one... whenever the symbiote bonds with a new host the host has to re-learn how to block spiderman's spider sense..

thus although there was an abundance of proof that already proved my point on venom vs. scarlet's spider sense.. this only further asserts that with enough will and concentration venom can teach himself how to block anyone's spider sense, not just parkers...

oh yes and as for this fight...

electro was prison raped was he not? well I'm certainly going to use that to my advantage... the symbiote can detect others painful memories and emotions... I will secure a psychological advantage by taunting him about it

No, electro wasn't prison raped, he banged a guy in prison. He's bisexual.

So, all that'll do is give Shocktopus a raging boner! 😄

Originally posted by long pig
No, electro wasn't prison raped, he banged a guy in prison. He's bisexual.

So, all that'll do is give Shocktopus a raging boner! 😄

😂 distraction for battle.. being all confined in that armor and all... well that's even more to my advantage..

Shocktopus is faster.

nope... I've already argued this..

You tried, but you failed.

Speedfreek was able to zig around in closed spaces so fast he's invisible. With only his bootthrusters. You're barely meta human in speed.

I'm faster.

Stronger?

hell no.... he's not stronger than a 10 ton lifting sabretooth with a venom symbiote and feral rage to further strengthen the symbiote's strength and speed factors..

Shocktopus is in the 30ton range. TBK is barely pushing 20. You're a weakling.

Shocktopus has:
Better weapons?

which I've made useless with my inginuity

The coils will go right through like butter, electrocuting you in your non existing cacoon.

Still trying to turn the conversation into something else? Not happening.

Shocktopus CAN electrocute you.
Shocktopus CAN magnetize you.
Shocktopus CAN trap you in hard air.
Shocktopus CAN disembowel you.
Shocktopus CAN K.O you with hits from tentacles.

Shocktopus DOES have your weaknesses.
Shocktopus CAN use them against you.

In the end, you have no chance. Shocktopus wins 10/10

Originally posted by jinzin
More durable?

HELL NO.... you're armor's been reduced to titanium...

I have one character that takes a barrage of sasquatch hits to the face with a smile... and another who shrugged off an assault by juggernaught while talking trash... in what way exactly are you more durable?

You can't hold one character to the tourney durability level then rant on about how other characters have done things way over it..... well, you can.... but it's hypocritical

🙄

More durable?

HELL NO.... you're armor's been reduced to titanium...

I have one character that takes a barrage of sasquatch hits to the face with a smile... and another who shrugged off an assault by juggernaught while talking trash... in what way exactly are you more durable?

Uh, HELL YES?

Shocktopus is:

A Meta-Human durable character with Super strong Titanium armor protected by near impenetrable shield and super strong titanium arms .

I'm at least twice your durability.

Longpig Vs Twister..I can't wait to neuter shocktupus w/e

Originally posted by TwisterGameX
Longpig Vs Twister..I can't wait to neuter shocktupus w/e

I'm fighting someone who is slower, weaker, less durable with less weapons and I have ALL of his weaknesses.

This isn't a fight, it's like beating a mentally retarded 5 year old paraplegic.

Originally posted by long pig
Your plans for prep on field will get you killed.

no they won't... 🙄 the plan I'm i'm using is one that is asserts an instant barrier of protection. That's the whole point of using the plan.. so I don't get killed...lol.

Originally posted by long pig
I only need one hit to basically take you out of the game or at least make you unable to fight back. .

Originally posted by long pig
It'll take me two seconds to reach you, you think you can do it that fast?

Originally posted by long pig
Yeah....no.

Originally posted by long pig
And no, when has normal spiderman's webbing ever been used like that? He was making the batch ESPECIALLY for fighting Electro. BEFORE HE KNEW ELECTRO WAS GOING TO ATTACK.

off the top of my head? ASM 09, 82, 187, vol II 17.... he made the special batch just like he made the special suit.. and for the same purpose... cause electro was powered up to his "god-like" status... one that was giving x-man the recieving end of an ass beating.. you don't have that type of power anymore.. 🤨

Originally posted by long pig
Why? Because the writers need to find a way for Spiderman to survive any fight with Electro..

ahhh "I don't like it.. it didn't happen" eh?

Originally posted by long pig
You don't have anything to keep me from killing you with two or three shots. ..

Guess that was just another HUGE misguided ASSumption on your part eh? I have plenty that will keep me up and dandy without need to worry. 😉

Originally posted by long pig
You don't have ANYTHING to keep me from magnetizing your body...

also you know as well as I do that's the smae as telepathy and void for the purposes of this debate...

Originally posted by long pig
You don't have ANYTHING to keep yourself safe from electricity....

you must not be paying attention...

sabretooth's healing factor...
sabretooth's durability
venom's healing factor...
venom's durability...
venom's symbiote which has already rendered electro helpless...and almost dead at that...
venom's webbing to act as an armor.. elasticity gives it the properties of said rubber gloves which have rendered electro useless in a fight.
TM's shields which are strong enough to hold up against it's vibranium/admantium counterpart without being broken.
TM's energy webbing, which has the same properties of both the webbind and the enrgy properties of the shield causing it to either block or absorb what hits it...
swords and guns to act as conduits that misdirect the currents of the electricity archs.

So, to recap:

jinzin wants to make a webshield(Which he can't do. And if he could, the coils would go through in one attempt),

Wrap himself up in organic webbing (which he doesn't have time to do. But if he did, it'd just slow him down and it'd still not protect him from the coils.)

Dodge lasers & Electricity.(Which he can't do since he doesn't have lightspeed reflexes)

.....Yeah

By the way, why would Venom's webs be non conductive in the first place? They are moist and organic. Prime material for conductivity.

Just because Spiderman knows how to make non conductive webbing doesn't mean Venom can make them naturally or at all.

Originally posted by long pig
It wasn't good.

Quality, not quantity. He just rambled on about a subject that wasn't relevant to the fight. So, he got dismissed.,

most of my post was in reply to what he had previously posted at the start of the match.. what does that tell you.. 🙄

Originally posted by long pig
He has no prep,

Originally posted by long pig
During prep:
I throw up my shields and charge myself to maximum capacity in the process boosting my strength to 10 tons(Which the suit heightens further). Shocktopus utilizes his electro powers to make a superheated flesh melting shield around his body(burns away any oncoming symbiote pieces and webbing). The boot thrusters are on and waiting to be let loose.,

Originally posted by long pig
no webbing over his body.,

Originally posted by long pig
.....nothing to keep him from being stuck in hard air and suffacating,.,

and how do you plan on keeping yourself from sufficating if your ionizing all those air particles? 🤨

Originally posted by long pig
.....nothing to keep him from being magnetized.

except for you know.. rules.. and long pigs own stragety of course... not exactly like electro's magnetism works in a remote sense anyways.

Originally posted by long pig
.....jinzin is good at trying to sway the subject to something he likes,

😂 coming from a guy who just ignored the bulk of my entire argument because he couldn't think of any REAL defense against it.. that's rich...

Originally posted by long pig
.....TBK has nothing he can do to keep from being electrocuted by adamantium coils AND magnetized AND K.O'd AND suffocated AND hit by lasers.

actually I have an abundance of factors on my die that help me in all of these regards.. if you read my posts you'd know that by now... 😉

-sigh-
Stop side stepping.

sabretooth's healing factor...

venom's healing factor...

venom's symbiote which has already rendered electro helpless...and almost dead at that...

venom's webbing to act as an armor.. elasticity gives it the properties of said rubber gloves which have rendered electro useless in a fight.
TM's shields which are strong enough to hold up against it's vibranium/admantium counterpart without being broken.
TM's energy webbing, which has the same properties of both the webbind and the enrgy properties of the shield causing it to either block or absorb what hits it...

You won't have time to do any of this. You can't make a webshield anyway.
If you could, the coils would pierce it first try.

Originally posted by long pig
Oh, Venom IS NOT SPIDERMAN. Just because spiderman has done something, doesn't mean Venom can.

When has Venom ever made a web-shield?

jinzin keeps forgetting he doesn't have the same powers as spiderman.

just because wenom hasn't used his symbiote to make him look like he's wearing a trenchcoat I suppose he can't do that either eh? 🙄

kinda condradictive when spiderman says: "he's got all of my powers" (ASM 315)

also you know as well as I do that's the smae as telepathy and void for the purposes of this debate...

I wouldn't even think of such a silly idea. What does controlling metal have to do with telepathy and/or reading minds?

Not a damn thing.

just because wenom hasn't used his symbiote to make him look like he's wearing a trenchcoat I suppose he can't do that either eh? roll eyes (sarcastic)

Speaking of hypocrites.

You assume Venom can make webshields because Spiderman can?

And you have the testies to argue against Electro being able to make a shield?

Originally posted by long pig
You tried, but you failed.

just because you didn't read it and chose not to respond to it does not mean I failed at arguing my position effectively... your bravado doesn't change that.. yawn

Originally posted by long pig
Speedfreek was able to zig around in closed spaces so fast he's invisible..

for somebody who's trying to argue how my character has been diminished power wise for this tourney you're certainly doing a good job of talking yourself up beyond what limitations were set for yourself.. 🙄 unfortunately your character's speed has been diminished to the speed cap of this tourney.. and unfortunately for you that's slow enough to be pummbled by sabretooth alone much less the amalgamation I've come up with.

Originally posted by long pig
You're barely meta human in speed.

Originally posted by long pig
I'm faster..

Originally posted by long pig
Sure he is. Sabretooth has had an unknown upgrade, to what extent is all speculation. It's probably around 4 tons. Feral rage? 😆..

sabretooth has had an upgrade that allowed him to go home with wendigo's skin as a fur coat.. 4 tons was probably close to what he USED to have... 5 or 6 is more accurate considering his feat with the breaking of an energy shield that's supposed to stop a fully grown mad elephant.... considering that back in the day he was outslugging mrs. marvel and punching out rogue in 3 hits.. if you think you're threatening to an admantiumized and jacked up sabes wearing a symbiote with expert fighting skills and photographic reflexes.. you're highly mistaken. You're laughing at the feral rage is another mistake... An angry teenager put the symbiote in the 30-35 tons lifting class AT THE LEAST... spiderman even estimated him to be at thing's strength level... a pissed off sabretooth.. well that's something you just better pray you don't have to mess around with.

Originally posted by long pig
Shocktopus is in the 30ton range. TBK is barely pushing 20. You're a weakling.

actually tbk is at 25 base.... how are you at 30 again? 🤨

Originally posted by long pig
No, no you didn't. What you did was pretend to have prep,.

Originally posted by long pig
then you pretended to be able to do it without prep.

Originally posted by long pig
Then you pretended to say you non-existant web-shield can brush off being hit with adamantium coils. .

I must have pretended to say that (how would you know what I was pretending anyways? 😂 )cause that's not an argument I was making... 😕 you can hit the stuff with admantium COILS all you want.. the pointy end is the sharp one right? it's still a coil right? as soon as you puncture the webbing the sides of the coils will be caught on the webbing and the momentum to further drive the through the webbing will be lost, the webbing will catch along the sides of the coils and hold just like webbing did the juggernaught... they aren't like admantium blades, they can't simply cut off the webbing with twisting an open blade... thus they get stuck as soon as they penetrate the webbing.. and they go nowhere..

Originally posted by long pig
The coils will go right through like butter, electrocuting you in your non existing cacoon..

If it was nonexistent you wouldn't be arguing against it.. 🙄

and being caught along the sides of the coils is going to keep it from doing any real damage or being any real threat..

Originally posted by long pig
Shocktopus CAN electrocute you...

Originally posted by long pig
Shocktopus CAN magnetize you....

Originally posted by long pig
Shocktopus CAN trap you in hard air.....

Originally posted by long pig
Shocktopus CAN disembowel you

Originally posted by long pig
Shocktopus CAN K.O you with hits from tentacles.

Originally posted by long pig
Shocktopus DOES have your weaknesses..

oh mean like as electro proved?!?!?😱

when venom almost killed him... 😕

Originally posted by long pig
Shocktopus CAN use them against you...

with my armor strategy as a failsafe.. ummm no.. you really can't.. not this time.. thank you come again.

Originally posted by Scoobless
You can't hold one character to the tourney durability level then rant on about how other characters have done things way over it..... well, you can.... but it's hypocritical

🙄

not at all.. long pig's armor was instantly brought DOWN when this tournement started.. and it was brought down at a level of titanium.. it's a stated level that he was brought down to.. venom however suffered no such depowering in terms of durability... (guess stormfronts not the only one left bitter about his loss eh "champ" 😉...)

Originally posted by long pig
Uh, HELL YES?

Shocktopus is:

A Meta-Human durable character with Super strong Titanium armor protected by near impenetrable shield and super strong titanium arms .

I'm at least twice your durability.

😂 oh that's rich.... innacurate but rich..... titanium doors have been punched down and broken by spiderman.. venom>>>>spiderman... you have a class 10 durability which means nothing to admantium packing fists LACKING SUPER STRENGTH that can render roughhouse unconcious and hurt warpath to bad extents... now add in the low estimate of 10 tons of super strength and those admantium fists become a WHOLE lot more dangerous to be hit with... gonna put dents into that armor and restrict movement and/or breathing when I do.... add symbiotic strength to that and things get even uglier for you....
as from that titianium arms and a shield that can't keep me out anyways don't really help your durability either...

Originally posted by long pig
Hopefully you're bringing something better than jinzin.

I'm fighting someone who is slower, weaker, less durable with less weapons and I have ALL of his weaknesses.

This isn't a fight, it's like beating a mentally retarded 5 year old paraplegic.

well what long pig lacks in strategy he certainly more than makes up for in bravado.

slower? nope.. I'm just as fast if I need to be.. my reflexive and combative speeds are also faster...
weaker? nope.. we're on even ground.. unless I get pissed.. then it's not even funny how mcuh weaker shocktopus becomes to tbk..
less durable? hmmmm class 10 meta human with titanium armor vs. class 10 metahuman with upgraded healing factor admantium skeleton and a symbiote.. nope. that advantage still goes to me...
less weapons? lazers, tenticals, coils, electricity, shields. vs. shields, tendrils, energy claws, admantium claws, webbing, sword and guns as conduits and electros greatest adversary.. the dreaded ROCK!

Originally posted by long pig
jinzin wants to make a webshield(Which he can't do. And if he could, the coils would go through in one attempt),

which he can do and long pig knows it thus scaring long pig into making an argument against it.. 🙄
unfortunately those coils get caught up in the webbing.. yeah.. good plan.. 😉

Originally posted by long pig
Wrap himself up in organic webbing (which he doesn't have time to do. But if he did, it'd just slow him down and it'd still not protect him from the coils.)),

energy webbing/ symbiotic webbing/ and energy shields... I only need a minute or less to do this... the webbing won't slow TBK down thank's to the symbiote displacing the webbng as not to hinder mobility... energy shields deal with coils.. but I don't have to deal with any coils yet as they are currently caught up in the web dome...,

Originally posted by long pig
Dodge lasers & Electricity.(Which he can't do since he doesn't have lightspeed reflexes)

which he doesn't need to do.. laser that don't break brick walls and electricity who's user's feedback failed to work on venom.... 😕

but for your case this simply looks like another argument for "I don't like it.. it didn't happen.." both of my meta humans have already dodged lazers....

Originally posted by long pig
By the way, why would Venom's webs be non conductive in the first place? They are moist and organic. Prime material for conductivity. )

who said they were moist?... oh wait, that'd be you.. they are a reproduction of the same webbing that spiderman used but to a stronger level of resiliency... they would have the same effect that spiderman's webbing would...

"basically I'd just web my hands into mitts and pound the crap out of him" 😛

Originally posted by long pig
Just because Spiderman knows how to make non conductive webbing doesn't mean Venom can make them naturally or at all.

Originally posted by long pig
Which is lowered here by tourney rules

Originally posted by long pig
AND by the symbiote. The symbiote lowers it's host's healing factor so the host won't be able to reject it.

ah yes.. lets go with the MADE UP powers and limitations on what my character can and cannot due IN SPITE of factual evidence that contradicts your assumptions completely.. 🙄 venom limits the healing factor just like venom didn't beat electro nearly to death.. 😂

ooooooooooooooor the symbiote doesn't work like that and proved you wrong during it's own damned comic series.. funny how you keep ignoring this.

Originally posted by long pig
Again, lowered by tourney rules and made moot by his vulnerability to fire.

AMALGAMATION.. my healing factors higher than it's ever been.. and yes.. my vulnerability to fire.. as was clearly displayed in mk spidey 8.... looks like someone hasn't been following the evolution of venom either.. or rather.. he only follows the parts he likes... 😉

Originally posted by long pig
You mean the time where Venom blind sided an un-charged Electro & Electro did nothing to defend himself?

nah.. the time where venom beat electro nearly to death in spite of electro being at the peak of his power and having a conductive feedback aura around his body while random electrical currents ran of his body, neither of which hurt venom in the least.

Originally posted by long pig
You won't have time to do any of this. You can't make a webshield anyway.
If you could, the coils would pierce it first try.