Palpatine v. Vader and Ventress

The revenge of the Sith is complete. Supreme Chancellor Palpatine, aka the elusive Darth Sidious, has brutally executed his ultimate scheme, and has nullified the Jedi Order, declaring himself Emperor of the entire galaxy. His powerful and violent henchman, Darth Vader, has succeeded in ridding the galaxy of the final threats to Palpatine's power - the now dead Leadership Council of the CIS. After the deed was executed on the planet Mustafar, Vader was confronted by Count Dooku's surviving Sith adept, Assaj Ventress. After a short discussion of politics and power, Vader and Ventress decide that it is time to send Sidious into the divine beyond, having accomplished his scheme, to join his slain apprentices, Maul and Tyranus. They travel to Coruscant, to the former Jedi Temple, where the Emperor is consulting numerous searches of the facility in an attempt to eliminate any refugee Jedi. Vader and Assaj slip past the Imperial Stormtroopers, into the main chamber, where Palpatine sits on an elaborate throne. He does not seem surprised to see them - not even Ventress. The gigantic doors close behind them, and seal themselves, leaving Vader and Ventress trapped in the throne room with the Emperor. Both treacherous Sith know all too well that neither alone is a match for Palpatine, and that - to finish this little coup - both will have to work together without fear of betrayal from the other. And so an alliance is made as Palpatine abandons his throne and faces the Dark Side adepts. The gnarled old man smiles and reaches into his cloak, and retrieves his Sith saber.

Three blades ignite. And the battle is on.

I'd have to say Sidious. Ventress is a little weaker than Obi-wan, who got pwned by Dooku, someone who seems to be about on the same level as Sidious. Vader in nearly insane, so I don't imagine him being as good of a teammate in this fight as he was with Obi-wan against Dooku.

Oh, terrible. Perhaps I should've thrown Maul in there, or something...

Vader could match Sidious for speed, Asajj probably almost could, too. But neither is close in Force skills. Probably Sidious, though, cause Asajj is only just a little stronger than Kit and he got pwnd by Sidious and he had Mace helping him, and Mace is even stronger than Vader. So Asajj'd go first, then Sidious would be able to beat Vader.

Vader can match sids for speed? 🤨

Are we talking about Vader as in Anakin getting his strop on, or Anakin living in a mobile iron lung?
If it's Vader in his suit, then yeah, Palpatine could take him down almost instantly. He'd be vulnerable to Force Lightning because he doesn't have organic hands, and Palpatine would be able to either fry him where he stands, or just run rings round him with his Sith variant of ataru...
Asajj however, has the agility and power to stand up to Palpatine, but probably not the knowledge of the Force needed to defend against Force Lightning. I think Palpatine would be remaining in office 😉

You can't say Vader is slow because that was the way the OT was made. I'm sure if it was made today Vader would be a lot faster.

Actually Lucas has said there is nothing wrong with the OT fighting. Vader was an crippled old man just as Ben described him and he wasent a fast fighter so it's not because of the animations of that time.

Originally posted by Darth Vious
Are we talking about Vader as in Anakin getting his strop on, or Anakin living in a mobile iron lung?
If it's Vader in his suit, then yeah, Palpatine could take him down almost instantly. He'd be vulnerable to Force Lightning because he doesn't have organic hands, and Palpatine would be able to either fry him where he stands, or just run rings round him with his Sith variant of ataru...
Asajj however, has the agility and power to stand up to Palpatine, but probably not the knowledge of the Force needed to defend against Force Lightning. I think Palpatine would be remaining in office 😉

I'm sorry, but the thought of Vader being vunerable to lightning is crap. Do you remember him blocking a blaster bolt with his hands? A blaster bolt is far denser package of energy than force lightning. He can block lightning, he can block lightning.

Originally posted by kamikz
Actually Lucas has said there is nothing wrong with the OT fighting. Vader was an crippled old man just as Ben described him and he wasent a fast fighter so it's not because of the animations of that time.

Originally posted by Jack O'Neil
Luke was moving just as slow so explain that one.

Luke was untrained.

And? In ROTJ Yoda said he was ready to be a Jedi Knight.

Originally posted by Darth_Glentract
I'm sorry, but the thought of Vader being vunerable to lightning is crap. Do you remember him blocking a blaster bolt with his hands? A blaster bolt is far denser package of energy than force lightning. He can block lightning, he can block lightning.

Originally posted by Gryn Jabar
Nope. That's JUST his hands. For all we know, he has rubber hands backed up with Adamntium. The rest of his body is electronics, as it has to A) sustain his lungs and B) Take over the role of his knees, as well as act as a life support system. Electronics<Lightning.

You do realize that electronics can be shielded from energy, don't you?

Stop competing with common sense, Glentract. Why do you think he dies in ROTJ? Because Luke severed his hand? No, I didn't think so. Vader is very vulnerable to Force lightning, as his suit's life support functions will be fried after a few seconds.

Originally posted by Darth Faunus
Stop competing with common sense, Glentract. Why do you think he dies in ROTJ? Because Luke severed his hand? No, I didn't think so. Vader is very vulnerable to Force lightning, as his suit's life support functions will be fried after a few seconds.

Because Sidious was standing over him shocking him, yes. If he had been in an upright duel, he would have been able to block with his hands, which can block energy.

Read the Ultimate Guide to Episode III: Revenge of the Sith. It says that Darth Vader, due to the fact that he has mecahnical forearms, will never be able to summon or defend against Sith lightning.

Simply because he can deflect blaster fire doesn't mean he can defend against the Force.

As seen in the NJO, force lightning isn't force energy as it can hurt Vong who are immune to the force.

Originally posted by Admiral Akbar
Vader can match sids for speed? 🤨

And your wrong, Glentract. The lightning killed Vader. So he couyld have blocked it but chose not to? Realm convincing.

Originally posted by darthsith19
Yes, watch the movie, Vader fought at least as fast w/ Kenobi as Sidious did with Yoda.

And your wrong, Glentract. The lightning killed Vader. So he couyld have blocked it but chose not to? Realm convincing.

His mechanical hands can, his head can't.