Uhmmm, yes, because that is murder.
And slaughtering an Animal is not? Humans are Mammals and most of the Animals used for fur or food happen to be Mammals. A Human cannot kill another Human, but they can kill a defenseless Animal that honestly never did anything to them?
Wowzers!
What’s “Fur expense”? And it depends how you do it. Trappers or furriers (in Canada anyway) have specific codes of conduct, practices and quotas that they have to adhere to to maintain their licences. They do not just go about randomly killing anything they see to skin it. Most trappers also have a far better understand regarding nature than you will show in your entire post.
I am sure they do. Which is why they arrange and set up the death of these Animals or kill them.
You do know that “coherently’ means Marked by an orderly, logical, and aesthetically consistent relation of parts, don’t you? That really doesn’t make sense what you are saying. And actually, there are circumstance under which killing another human would be considered wrong, much like if you were talking to a trapper or a person who spends a lot of time in nature would tell you that there are times that killing an animal is acceptable, and other times it’s just wrong.
Whoa! Funny, your definition of "Coherently" is the EXACT same words from Dictionary.com. EXACT same words. Damn, I can copy and paste as well!
No. Killing an Animal in self defense is perfectly understandable. But trapping them for fur, hunting them and killing them for eating and/or for fur is WRONG! They do not deserve to die! None of them!
Who says this? Really, I’d love to see who says this and upon who’s behalf they said it.
Once again what kind of logic is this? Where are you getting this from?
Where are you getting this sh*t? Are you basing your entire argument on stuff that you have made up, or do you know some half-baked retarded crackhead who sits on his porch and spews this stuff?
People DO believe this kind of stuff. I have seen this arrogance before when I have brought up the subject to some friends and these are some of their responses. And just because my friends choose to share an opinion with me that I disagree with doesn't make them "Crackheads". Don't make silly assumptions.
Yes, and you are guilty of that just by the very nature of your consumption. Do you drive a car? Do you use paper? Do you ever through anything out? What do you do for the environment around you?
I drive a Hybrid, I don't need paper (Use it occasionally) and I Recycle but I often throw things away, yes.
Murdering Animals is a differential subject than these things.
I do quite the bit for my environment, thanks.
And what the hell do you do? Eat meat, Drive a Car, write things down, throw away leftover meat and waltz around in your coat?
Please. Considering I am a Vegetarian, Drive a Hybrid, recycle what I can and actually get off my f*cking ass to help...
..Well, it's doing more than what you're doing.
O.K., Someone’s been watching too many Disney films. Live in the wild is f*cking ruthless. Very few animals die of old age. They die of starvation, massive trauma from accidents, being killed and consumed by others, freezing to death, drowning, etc. Deer are not prancing together in a meadow joyously celebrating the fact that they are together and loving life. They hear up to keep as many eyes on the lookout for danger that is a part of every moment of their lives. By anthropomorphising these creatures you are doing them a great disservice and showing them a great deal of disrespect along with exposing what seems to be a general lack of knowledge concerning their existence.
I show them disrespect, yet I am not the one who agrees with their death or encourages it. Awkward? Indeed.
Animals still deserve to roam freely and do as they please instead of rotting in some small ass cage and getting slaughtered alive.... Or getting "peacefully" gassed as their lives are stripped from them.
What the hell did they do to you to deserve for you to kill them? Did *YOU* just decide you wanted to eat some of them? Or wear their skin? You don't have that right, and when you wear them or eat them, you're contributing to their ruthless and undeserved death.
Damn, I wish I could sit down and enjoy a burnt rotten piece of Animal muscle and still reach the ability to sleep at night.
Yes, I have heard many hunters and trappers relish in the fact that animals DESERVE to die. Where are you getting this crap? Do you read a lot of PETA pamphlets? Because you are beginning to sound as irrational as they sound.
Not at all. Yet Another "Silly" Assumption. Killing an Animal just isn't right, Licence or no.
It is not right to kill an Animal under ANY circumstance except for self-defense.
O.k. first of all there you go anthropomorphising. Most animals do not live in family groups or form emotional bonds. Some do yes, but for most, emotional bonds would severely limit their motivation for self preservation. Secondly, who’s endorsing ripping animals open while they are still alive? What you are doing is grandstanding and making obvious points partied up with silly rhetoric and misinformation.
Yet everything dies. More often than not painfully everything dies painfully, and in the wild, often horrifically.
This doesn’t make sense to me.
Getting ripped open isn't horrific? I don't understand? Or gassing and animal and taking their life away so you can be warm is not horrific? Wow, some Logic you got going on for you.
NOT EVERY ANIMAL DIES IN THE WILD.
Neither do most of them.
Oh I see... So, since they die we get the right to come up and do it anyways, because they might die to another Animal? Oh I see....
That's bloody retard logic.
Whoah there my friend, you have rambled on without any apparent knowledge or grasp of reality in an overbearing manner thinking your stream of inconstant thought is superior to that of others, that by it’s very definition is arrogant. Are there disturbing practices in the fur industry? Yes, of course. Do all those who participate in the fur industry, hunting or eating of animals do so purely with evilness and selfishness in mind hoping to wipe out all animal life as we know it because they deserve it? Not likely.
No one said they did. You're calling me Arrogant? I smell Hypocrisy. Killing an Animal in a torturous way is horrible, but killing an Animal period is disgusting. Nothing deserves to die and just because the Animal may die in the wild doesn't mean we get to kill it just because we assume it will be killed savagely by another animal. That's just absurd.
And please: The Irrelevant Semantics you're using? Getting a bit too ridiculous now. Nobody rambled, except for you spitting Pseudo bullshit assumptions all over me like some rabid dog who's having a Seizure.
What’s “Fur expense”? And it depends how you do it. Trappers or furriers (in Canada anyway) have specific codes of conduct, practices and quotas that they have to adhere to to maintain their licences. They do not just go about randomly killing anything they see to skin it. Most trappers also have a far better understand regarding nature than you will show in your entire post.
Yes. Basically, a license to kill Animals. It just it isn't right.