The Doomsday Gauntlet

Originally posted by leonidas
<<to why Thanos whouldn't be able to break Supes bones?>>

er, like i said about three posts ago . . . because:

1. he's never done anything like it before
2. supes was amped with a motherbox
3. thanos may simply not be strong enough to do so (based on the examples given, as i said (don't you read, kg?) they don't clearly show that thanos is that much stronger than supes, let alone an AMPED supes)
4. supes himself didn't think anyone could do so and he's fought pretty well everyone
5. breaking a rib/jaw is a FAR cry from compound fracturing a LARGE bone/s like the radius and ulna -- BOTH of which were clearly broken. and again, this was not normal supes

don't lose sight of the main point -- the argument started because it is said by some (me and others) that dd is likely stronger or at least as strong as thanos. so if thanos can punch out ss, dd can as well. dd broke amped supes arm. it's possible thanos could, i just don't think it's likely based on the evidence shown, and i really doubt he'd break the arm of a supes amped by a motherbox.

back at the REAL debate: dd kills (literally slays) ss if he can catch him, stalemates him otherwise UNLESS ss can teleport him away for a cheap bfr win.

are we clear NOW as regards your question kg? if not, read again, a little more slowly . . . 😱

and Galactus has never broken many bones , or Odin hasn't broken much bones mebay they can't as well 😉 not doing it means what?

Thanos can amp his power to infinitete so sure of course he can break Supes bones.

"based on the examples given, as i said (don't you read, kg?) they don't clearly show that thanos is that much stronger than supes, let alone an AMPED supes"

based on what examples? an amped thanos can increase his powers to near Infinite matching that of Skyfather.

So someone with Infinite power can't break Superman's bone?

good examples 🙄

Originally posted by kgkg
that was my example? 😉

you asked a question i answered

and Thanos did hold his own agaisn't Drax and Hulk
and Thor, THing , Spider-man etc

while holding back

He can amp his powers to infite level as shown in his battle with ODIN

but if none of your examples were thanos against savage hulk than they DO NOT MATTER... as savage hulk is the only real level of comparison with dd and thanos is afraid to fight him straight up...

Originally posted by kgkg
it was a suppose to be a question.

He made a statement that Thanos can't break Supes bones like DD.

he never really gave an answer other than ZOD is stonger than Supes.

or why Thanos whould not be able to.

yes.. yes he did.. were you not paying attention?

<<he has never broken Superman Bones? because Thanos is a marvel char.>>

kg, you're killing me . . . R . . . E . . . A . . . D . . .

i said he's never broken ANYONE'S bones. not 'superman's'. criminy . . .

<<and Galactus has never broken many bones , or Odin hasn't broken much bones mebay they can't as well not doing it means what?>>

if he fought as many h2h battles as thanos has, maybe he WOULD have. . .

<<based on what examples? an amped thanos can increase his powers to near Infinite matching that of Skyfather.>>

based on THESE friggin' examples!!

1. thor and thing v thanos. thanos blasted them and hardly fought them h2h at all. when they DID work together they sent him flying. that's when he started blasting.

2. based on the fact that he's not too thrilled to fight savage hulk.

3. based on the fact that he simply stalemated drax (the 'all powerful drax that even the PROF hulk stalemated' -- yep, quite the feat, there . . .)

you're example of odin is not appropriate here. he never fought odin h2h and without amping his strength thor is much stronger than odin. you also say terrax and ss can amp their strength to infinity. can terrax break supes' arm in a h2h fight? and besides that CLEARLY thanos CANNOT 'amp to infinity'. he couldn't even amp to odin level! and say what he wants, odin is certainly NOT infinite. surtur was his equal, ymir, mangog was BEATING him.

i've said over and again, it is possible thanos is strong enough to do so. i just don't think it likely. particularly if supes has a motherbox.

now stop avoiding the topic. dd catches ss he pummels him into a silvery paste because he is at least as strong as strong as thanos. he does the same thing to everyone on that list if he catches them.

lets just look at it like this..

3 gogs are = to one superman

doomsday>>>>>>>>>300 gogs is = to:
doomsday>>>>>100 supermen...

doomsday >>>>>6000 gogs is = to:
doomsday>>> 2000 supermen

doomsday>>>>> unlimited gogs for 100 years straight is = to:

well you get the idea....

could surfer even last against 300 gogs? NO................... plain and simple.. NO!

300 Supermen < Doomsday right?

Unlimited Supermen < Doomsaday right?

<<lets just look at it like this..

3 gogs are = to one superman

doomsday>>>>>>>>>300 gogs is = to:
doomsday>>>>>100 supermen...

doomsday >>>>>6000 gogs is = to:
doomsday>>> 2000 supermen

doomsday>>>>> unlimited gogs for 100 years straight is = to:

well you get the idea....

could surfer even last against 300 gogs? NO................... plain and simple.. NO!>>

isn't that what i said?

😂

Thanos said that he has avoided fighitng the Hulk. Not that he is afraid he simply didn't see any value in the frustration of fighting him. Thsi doesn't even hold up in a his fights with the Hulk.

Thanos fought Champion while he weilded the power gem granting him Hulk like Strength.

Drax the destroyer is just a version of Hulk who can fly he has the same strentgh fueld by anger deal. Thanos beat hsi ass and Drax's at the same time. Thanos is in terms of strentgh in a class of his own.

well, almost a class of his own. doomsday is sitting right beside him, and mangog may be there as well . . .

1. thor and thing v thanos. thanos blasted them and hardly fought them h2h at all. when they DID work together they sent him flying. that's when he started blasting. 2. based on the fact that he's not too thrilled to fight savage hulk. 3. based on the fact that he simply stalemated drax (the 'all powerful drax that even the PROF hulk stalemated' -- yep, quite the feat, there . . .)

so now you need to be able to fight H2H to break Supes bones?

Fact is Thanos can amp his powers to infinite level breaking his bone is not a problem

but if none of your examples were thanos against savage hulk than they DO NOT MATTER... as savage hulk is the only real level of comparison with dd and thanos is afraid to fight him straight up...

He didn't want to fight Champion as well

Drax Strenght has been said to be limitless Thanos has battled him H2H

So DD streght limitless? can he draw limitless power from different dimentions?

Originally posted by jinzin
lets just look at it like this..

3 gogs are = to one superman

doomsday>>>>>>>>>300 gogs is = to:
doomsday>>>>>100 supermen...

doomsday >>>>>6000 gogs is = to:
doomsday>>> 2000 supermen

doomsday>>>>> unlimited gogs for 100 years straight is = to:

well you get the idea....

could surfer even last against 300 gogs? NO................... plain and simple.. NO!

and remember Leo Thanos battle Mad THor(with power gem) H2H

Adam , SS , etc all refered to Mad thor powers as limitless and none can stop him.

So your saying thanos amping his powers ( who battle Mad thor (with gem) can't break Supes bone?

<<So your saying thanos amping his powers ( who battle Mad thor (with gem) can't break Supes bone?>>

i said he MIGHT do it. and frankly, i'm getting sick of repeating myself . . .

and thanos did NOT beat champ. he tricked him. he snuck in some shots that meant nothing to champ, then hid behind his shield while champ blew up the planet. thanos himself admits champ is too much physically for him so he has to trick him. another sign of his 'infinite power'?

and is he supposed to break bones with cosmic blasts? 😑 we were discussing it as a means to comparing dd's strength and thanos strength. based on what was discussed, i think we can safely say dd is in his class. at least.

Thanos has destroyed a planet also when duking out with another opponent.

This is one of the examples of " he is durable enough to take bullets but prefers to dodge it".

Champ would have to be in such a level that would get professor Hulk and others that fough Thanos after (like immortal Herc and Thor) for him to be "afraid" of slugging it out with him.

Originally posted by leonidas
<<So your saying thanos amping his powers ( who battle Mad thor (with gem) can't break Supes bone?>>

i said he MIGHT do it. and frankly, i'm getting sick of repeating myself . . .

and thanos did NOT beat champ. he tricked him. he snuck in some shots that meant nothing to champ, then hid behind his shield while champ blew up the planet. thanos himself admits champ is too much physically for him so he has to trick him. another sign of his 'infinite power'?

and is he supposed to break bones with cosmic blasts? 😑 we were discussing it as a means to comparing dd's strength and thanos strength. based on what was discussed, i think we can safely say dd is in his class. at least.

Here Thanos wanted Champ gem not to beat him.

He handles Champ Physically like it or not he might have not hurt Champ but he easily blocked and was powerful enough to knock him like shit.

His shield was breaking now lets see (Champ who is already at = Savage Hulk strength level when angry) Thanos realizes that his shield was going to break because Cham was getting stronger the madder he got (that&#8217;s where he refers to Hulk&#8217;s power)

What does that mean? Nothing that Thanos didn&#8217;t want to fight Champ , Cham later comes to challenge him amped up he send him away again. Thanos is not the type of character who would battle just for the hell of it.

Thanos was able to go H2H with Mad Thor with power gem (a combined force of cosmic might failed to even faze him) ------ that was before he started amping his powers.

When he battle Odin he amped his power to near infinite levels

You saying he didn&#8217;t want to fight hulk, champ etc means what?

He has pimp slam them with ease.

Is DD strength comparable to that of Thanos?

Who knows maybe but beating superman doesn&#8217;t really mean you are at thanos level.

WHo has amped his power's to skyfather levels in the past.

safely say dd is in his class. at least.

and you saying example of Thanos not wanting to fight physically as a sing of his limits? i have already told you Thanos can AMP HIS POWERS TO LIMITLESS

did you not read the battle with MAD THOR , and ODIN

and leo if you beileve Thanos strenght is comparable to that of DD then why whould you make a statement that Thanos won't break Supes bone?

THanos is at DD level but he won't break Sups bone because he didn't want to go H2H with Hulk.

But Thanos has gone H2H With Thor with (power gem) ------- sign of near limitless power rite there.

<<Who knows maybe but beating superman doesn’t really mean you are at thanos level.

WHo has amped his power's to skyfather levels in the past.>>

now THAT at least i can somewhat agree on. but i'm not using ONLY the example of his beating superman as the basis for my argument. you keep saying he can amp to infinity. he can't. he couldn't amp to odin's level. he couldn't beat champ. there is a limit to his strength. based on what i have seen of him in h2h, and what i have seen of dd in h2h, i don't think it illogical to say dd is in thanos strength class and that thanos would definitely need to amp his strength to stay with dd who has proven in the past that he is capable of INCREASING his own strength DURING a battle.

Originally posted by leonidas
<<Who knows maybe but beating superman doesn&#8217;t really mean you are at thanos level.

WHo has amped his power's to skyfather levels in the past.>>

now THAT at least i can somewhat agree on. but i'm not using ONLY the example of his beating superman as the basis for my argument. you keep saying he can amp to infinity. he can't. he couldn't amp to odin's level. he couldn't beat champ. there is a limit to his strength. based on what i have seen of him in h2h, and what i have seen of dd in h2h, i don't think it illogical to say dd is in thanos strength class and that thanos would definitely need to amp his strength to stay with dd who has proven in the past that he is capable of INCREASING his own strength DURING a battle.

Thanos did not beat Champ h2h? but why whould he need to beat Cham h2h? Thanos gave him all the shot , Thanos simple toyed with champ's ass. If you notice Champ didn't get one hit.

Based on what you have seen? Thanos was able to battle Mad Thor with Gem longer than all the cosmics combined.

isn't that a sing of near infinite level?

and when did he loose h2h leo and you and i both know Thanos never uses his powers to his full extent

it was you who started by saying he could raise his strength to infinite levels. this is clearly NOT the case. he fought mad thor, true, for a prolonged time, but he couldn't beat HIM either and had to use a weapon to restrain him.

all i am doing is showing that thanos strength, while great, is NOT limitless. hence, it IS possible that dd is as strong as thanos, or could BECOME as strong in a fight between the 2.

and that would be strong enough to turn any of these individuals into paste IF he caught them . . .

Originally posted by leonidas
it was you who started by saying he could raise his strength to infinite levels. this is clearly NOT the case. he fought mad thor, true, for a prolonged time, but he couldn't beat HIM either and had to use a weapon to restrain him.

all i am doing is showing that thanos strength, while great, is NOT limitless. hence, it IS possible that dd is as strong as thanos, or could BECOME as strong in a fight between the 2.

and that would be strong enough to turn any of these individuals into paste IF he caught them . . .

since you say it is possible that dd is as strong as thanos.

he did not beat Mad Thor but gave him a beat down something a the combined might of Cosmic heroes couldn't