Originally posted by leonidas
UNBELIEVEABLY, kg sayeth:<<hmmmmmmmm
50 times all you said is DD broke Supes arm then said Thanos couldn't.>>😑
leonidas, MANY times, sayeth:
<<it's conceiveable thanos could do it, but i don't think it's likely.>> p12
<<did i say no one else? i said imo it's LIKELY thanos couldn't based on what was shown by b's examples>> p14
<<dd broke amped supes arm. it's possible thanos could, i just don't think it's likely based on the evidence shown>> p14
<<i've said over and again, it is possible thanos is strong enough to do so. i just don't think it likely.>> p15
methinks cresh is exactly right . . .
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so ok you think thanos can't i can live with that
<<that's the thing you thinking has no value in arguments without evidence>>
about as much as you thinking he CAN . . . except a little more, based on the evidence YOUR side has complied. bottom line -- thanos has beaten exactly NO ONE in strictly h2h combat. he's never been shown breaking anyone's bones. he's stalemated some pretty tough guys but in the end you've given no indication he is all that much stronger than supes. all that DESPITE the fact you say keep saying he can raise his strength to 'infinity'. again, something claimed but never proven by you.
on our side however, we have dd slaughtering an amped supes and AFTER taking the OB slaughtering darkseid in h2h. we also have a WEAKER version annihilating singlehandedly the jla.
ultimately, i'm with jinzin on this -- i've been waiting for someone on your side to come through with some great proof, but it hasn't happened. so . . . based on the evidence OUR side has shown, (how easily he handled darkseid and supes and the jla) until someone PROVES differently, i'd say dd is stronger than thanos.
Originally posted by jinzindrax and proffesor hulk are =
thanos being >>>>them is no big deal whatsoever....why?
cause... tsavage hulk>>>>>>>>professor hulk...
I don't see your point. Before his ressurection, he stalemated Drax. Drax destroyed a planet twice, once while fighting Thanos.
After his resurrection, he stomps Drax and Hulk.
IF thanos can't down guys like thing and thor with 1 energy shot... the chance that he could BLAST dd into submission is dramatically low... if he has to resort to multiple blasts the chance that he'll put down dd with them grows even thinner....
That was before his ressurection. That's not the same Thanos that takes shots from Odin or beats up Drax and Hulk in one shot.
H2H? again if he's scared of figting savage hulk and thing and thor can last a few minutes against him, he better hightail it if he sees doomsday. [/B]
Yeah, so I guess Surfer is more powerful than Strange since Strange said Surfer was the only one able to keep Thanos in check. And I should take it that Gladiator is stronger than Thanos since Thanos said that about Gladiator as well. 🙄
Originally posted by leonidas
he's never been shown breaking anyone's bones. he's stalemated some pretty tough guys but in the end you've given no indication he is all that much stronger than supes.
Kurse hasn't broken Thor or Bill's bones either. I guess that means he ain't 4x Thor's strength.
Some pretty tough guys? From the death god Walker to Odin, Tyrant to Beyonder consistantly.
No indication. Except he owns Drax. And Drax destroyed twice destroyed a planet. Once in a fight with Thanos.
Hm, Superman destroyed how many planets again? Or even involved in a fight where a planet's destruction was the result? And keep in mind, that Thanos was before ressurection.
on our side however, we have dd slaughtering an amped supes and AFTER taking the OB slaughtering darkseid in h2h. we also have a WEAKER version annihilating singlehandedly the jla.
Superman's slaughtered Darkseid twice. Heatvision has reflected the OE. Darkseid even begged for his life.
Odin or Walker couldn't have stomped Supes with motherbox?
Originally posted by kgkgAnd you just keep provding the evidence. ❌
that's the thing you thinking has no value in arguments without evidence
😄so ok you think thanos can't i can live with that
Leondis is not saying that Thanos can't.
Leondis is saying that Thanos probably can.
Leondis is it's not likely.
Leondis is saying it is possible, just not likely.
can you read that this time? 🙂
Or are you going to continue to think Leondis said Thanos can't? 🙁
<<Kurse hasn't broken Thor or Bill's bones either. I guess that means he ain't 4x Thor's strength.>>
actually, i think kurse HAS broken bones . . . in any event, the thrust of your comment is fair enough. i know it is a sort of weak point, nonetheless it is true. still, if that were the extent of my argument i might even give in . . . of course, it isn't . . .
odin beat thanos. tyrant crushed him until thanos used tyrant's stolen power. when has he ever owned drax except that issue of im 30 years ago? and there is no way to know they weren't blasting each other, though ironically THAT drax was said to be a 40 ton drax . . . i'm guessing they were probably blasting. this is a strict strength comparison. strength why? strength because it is dd's STRENGTH that would allow him to beat everyone in this gauntlet to a bloody pulp -- IF he could catch all of them. and that is after all the point of the thread.
how many planets did supes destroy? not too many recently, except that moon, but in supes's defense he IS one of the good guys. it's not all that likely we'll be seeing him destroying planets anytime soon . . .
and for those couple times supes DID beat darkseid, there are many examples of darkseid smacking supes around. has supes gotten stronger or darkseid weaker? if supes is stronger than seid is the same and maybe supes IS as strong as thanos. if darkseid is weaker, there is no rational explanation for such a drop and maybe we should look at his more consistent showings as opposed to only his recent ones.
Originally posted by Creshosk
And you just keep provding the evidence. ❌Leondis is not saying that Thanos can't.
Leondis is saying that Thanos probably can.
Leondis is it's not likely.
Leondis is saying it is possible, just not likely.can you read that this time? 🙂
Or are you going to continue to think Leondis said Thanos can't? 🙁
Originally posted by Beyonder
I don't see your point.
it was as simplistic as I could have made it... 🙄
the point was this... people keep referring to thanos being superior to hulk despite evidence, and using that claim to support that thanos had the raw strength to deal with doomsday. however, we know that thanos is superior to professor hulk, we also know that doomsday is far superior to proffesor hulk so using thanos' victories over hulk isn't a good comparison of how he fares against brute strength characters who exceed prof hulk, like savage hulk.. superman, and well doomsday...
Originally posted by Beyonder
Before his ressurection, he stalemated Drax. Drax destroyed a planet twice, once while fighting Thanos.
professor hulk has stalemated drax. savage hulk is stronger than profesor hulk by leaps and bounds...
so thanos beating stalemating drax leaves him at a comparible level with prof hulk with is far lower in strength than savage hulk who one punches planetoids twice the size of earth.
Originally posted by Beyonder
After his resurrection, he stomps Drax and Hulk.
that doesn't mean he'd stomp doomsday.. or even savage hulk for that matter.
drax and prof hulk I'd gather are in the same league if not considerably weaker than chracters like wonder woman, martian manhunter, orion, and green lantern... doomsday worked this entire crew along with superman without even breaking a sweat...
Originally posted by Beyonder
That was before his ressurection. That's not the same Thanos that takes shots from Odin or beats up Drax and Hulk in one shot.
which would almost be impressive if doomsday didn't give darksied the 3 hitter quiter after a blast from the omega beams...
Originally posted by Beyonder
Yeah, so I guess Surfer is more powerful than Strange since Strange said Surfer was the only one able to keep Thanos in check. And I should take it that Gladiator is stronger than Thanos since Thanos said that about Gladiator as well. 🙄
gladiator IS a threat to thanos.. glaiator has the potential to be a threat to anyone in terms of physicality.. just like savage hulk.... don't know what you're getting at here.
Originally posted by jinzin
[B]how did you not see the point? 🤨it was as simplistic as I could have made it... 🙄
the point was this... people keep referring to thanos being superior to hulk despite evidence, and using that claim to support that thanos had the raw strength to deal with doomsday. however, we know that thanos is superior to professor hulk, we also know that doomsday is far superior to proffesor hulk so using thanos' victories over hulk isn't a good comparison of how he fares against brute strength characters who exceed prof hulk, like savage hulk.. superman, and well doomsday...
again these are weak comparisons...
Weak comparison? Like as if either Drax or Prof. Hulk even gave him a hard time. Put it any way you'd like but Thanos didn't even put any effort.
professor hulk has stalemated drax. savage hulk is stronger than profesor hulk by leaps and bounds...
so thanos beating stalemating drax leaves him at a comparible level with prof hulk with is far lower in strength than savage hulk who one punches planetoids twice the size of earth.
Great and Thanos put what effort into beating up Drax and Hulk? One back hand?
drax and prof hulk....that doesn't mean he'd stomp doomsday.. or even savage hulk for that matter.
Um yeah right, maybe if he fought like the way he did against Magus' Thanos dopplerganger. Heck he manhandled both Drax and Prof. Hulk with no effort.
drax and prof hulk I'd gather are in the same league if not considerably weaker than chracters like wonder woman, martian manhunter, orion, and green lantern... doomsday worked this entire crew along with superman without even breaking a sweat...
Considerably weaker? Hm, I guess Thanos not breaking a sweat agianst Hulk, Thing, Thor, and Herc doesn't count either.
which would almost be impressive if doomsday didn't give darksied the 3 hitter quiter after a blast from the omega beams...
Omega Beams mean what now? And attacking Darkseid from behind proves what now?
gladiator IS a threat to thanos.. glaiator has the potential to be a threat to anyone in terms of physicality.. just like savage hulk.... don't know what you're getting at here.
Gladiator wishes he's a threat to Thanos. If your including the fact that he's 100X speed of light, then he'd stomp DD as well, not just Thanos. Gladiator ain't a threat. Punching harder is more powerful than energy attacks from Walker, a death god?
Originally posted by Beyonder
Weak comparison? Like as if either Drax or Prof. Hulk even gave him a hard time. Put it any way you'd like but Thanos didn't even put any effort.
into beating prof hulk and drax.. do you not even understand why the "it wasn't savage hulk and that makes a big difference" has any relavance to your examples? 🤨
Originally posted by Beyonder
Great and Thanos put what effort into beating up Drax and Hulk? One back hand?
the same hulk that's afraid of getting hit with nukes... hmmmmm who was it in this thread that took the equivolant of 100,000 simultaneous nukes? 😉
and what effort you say? probably about the same effort dd used to one punch iron, one punch MM, and one punch ww into submission.
Originally posted by Beyonder
Um yeah right, maybe if he fought like the way he did against Magus' Thanos dopplerganger. Heck he manhandled both Drax and Prof. Hulk with no effort.
the same way dd beat the crap out of the strongest members of the JLA with no effort? 😕
again.. I think you're missing the savage vs. prof hulk argument here...
hell here's an idea make a savage vs. prof hulk thread.. see who wins...
Originally posted by Beyonder
Considerably weaker? Hm, I guess Thanos not breaking a sweat agianst Hulk, Thing, Thor, and Herc doesn't count either.
thor a guy that got downed by one superman punch.. herc a guy = with thor...
p.hulk a guy scared of nukes.. drax a guy= with p.hulk
nope.. I'm still not impressed.
Originally posted by Beyonder
Omega Beams mean what now? And attacking Darkseid from behind proves what now?
omega beams that are supposed to destroy anything... 😕 you tell me....
as far as attacking darksied.. darksied saw him coming, couldn't react fast enough to dd's speed. and that dd can put out a powerhouse like darksied the same guy who has manhandled superman, in 3 hits.....
Originally posted by Beyonderdude did you not read and comprehend the words in the post.. gladiator has the POTENTIAL to be threatening to ANYONE on a physical level... potential being the most important word of the sentence..
Gladiator wishes he's a threat to Thanos. If your including the fact that he's 100X speed of light, then he'd stomp DD as well, not just Thanos. Gladiator ain't a threat. Punching harder is more powerful than energy attacks from Walker, a death god?
Originally posted by Adam Warlock
Ummm... Thor knocked Supes out of a few panels in that crossover. He was probably out cold. So Supes and Thor both have a KO on each other.
i sincerely doubt he was out cold....
in either case.. amped supes>>>>supes = thor (going by your argument of course.. which I don't agree with but i'll respect your opinion)
doomsday>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>amped supes...
what does that tell you?
Originally posted by Adam Warlock
Ummm... Thor knocked Supes out of a few panels in that crossover. He was probably out cold. So Supes and Thor both have a KO on each other.
Thats 100% incorrect. There was NO KO by Thor.
Thors hammer knocked Supes back for a moment. Supes came back and punched Thor into a building. Its even in narration.