Last Man Standing! Completely dark room

Originally posted by Dizzle
Well, if we really want to get into it, Batman could very well have a flashlight, which would kill the point of having the fight in a black room. (hey, all detectives have flashlights... even the world's greatest)

Lighting up a flashlight would be suicide in a dark room. Everyone would know his position.

DD wins this 99% of the time. This fight was made for him. The guy can "see" 360 degrees and can detect where everyone is going with his radar.

First to fall: Punisher. Why only give him a handgun? Unless it's a high velocity pistol (in which case he would only have a small clip), noone in the room will be hurt. Sabretooth can survive from handgun shot. DD, Cap and Batman all have costumes that can take a shot from a pistol. Spidey will just jump out of the way. Punisher can't do anything in this situation.

Second: Captain America. Rogers won't be able to defend against himself from DD's blows.

Third: Sabretooth. His hearing and smell will give him a general area of where his ooponents are but not specific enough where he can strike accurate attacks.

Fourth: Batman. His infrared lenses will give him a huge advantage but as another reader pointed out, how won't be able to protect himself against projectiles...however...there is a way he can win it over daredevil (more on that lateR).

Fifth: Spiderman. How is spiderman going to land blows against DD? His spidersense will tell him if MAtt's about to attack him, but the most spiderman could hope for is to just throw a wild kick or punch and hope it'll strike DD. DD would probably counter it anyway.

Alternative victory: Batman. If I was trapped in a dark room with batman's utility belt and his infrared lenses I would do this:
1) Switch my mask to block all noises.
2) Switch on infrared lenses
3) Put on portable gas mask
4) Close my eyes and throw all my flashbangs and tear gas pellets into the room. The Flashbangs will incapacitate everyone's hearing and balance. The gas pellets will keep people distorted even more.
5) While in infrared mode, pluck off everyone with batarangs and explosives.

Originally posted by Scoobless
how long do you think it'd take DD to figure out the room was totally dark?... y'know... if someone doesn't actually tell him

DD would know the room is dark off the bat. Remeber, he would be able to feel the heat from the light, so hed know. Hed also hear the bulbs genetrating electricity.

Think of the craziness. Everyone would be swinging at everything that comes near them... well except for Batman with his heat vision and DD with his sense. In this kinda fight it's gonna get really ugly really fast due to the lack of room. I think the final two would be Sabertooth and Spiderman. Captain America might make it 3rd to last because of his shield, which would prevent his head from being taken off.

Is it 15 ft x 15 ft? How high are the ceilings?

Phhhh spiderman.

Phhhh DD.

Anyone who said those two had a chance obviously didn't bother to read past those names or was blinded by fanboy love.

Sabertooth owns this fight so easy it's not even funny.

Yeah, I think Sabretooth would win as well. Or possibly Batman.

Well, I think Cap uses a gas mask, but the rest of them would go down if Bats expended all his gas bombs (espeicailly since it's a 15x15 room), leaving only them two. But by the time one of them one, Sabes would be up again. I don't think I can see a Batman win.

There's also explosives. If it came down to just Bats and Sabretooth, I think Batman *could* possibly win with a nerve strike or explosive or something from his goodie bag. But really, I think I lot of people would get tagged with Sabretooth's claws during the havoc.

Tiny explosives, like on Tom and Jerry.

Yeah, I guess he could, but seriously, who can run from sabertooth in a 15x15 room? If this was a more normal fight I might give some of the other guys a chance, but damn, there's nowhere for any of them to go. Sabes is the strongest, fastest, most durable guy in there and he's one of the best fighters to boot.

Yeah. It really cuts out a lot of options for the other guys.

Sabretooth is stronger than Spiderman's 15 ton strength? I thought Sabes was only in the >5 ton category?

And faster? No, I shall not have that. Spiderman is indeed faster.

And no, this is not fanboyism.

ok... what if DD steals caps regular shield AND his energy shield emitter?.... that can be formed into an offensive weapon fairly easily (or so it would seem... never see cap or TM fiddle with controls when they want it to change shape).... and it's powerful enough to hurt the Rhino

If comes down to Spider-Man and Daredevil then Spider-Man waits and lets Daredevil attack him and then grabs DD and throws him against the wall and breaks DD back or neck. ? do they know who there in the room with. Daredevil is a great fighter but compared to Spideys strength and speed he get swated like a fly only somebody like Sabretooth or Wolverine who has great durability might win against Spider-Man

I'd give this to Spider-Man, 2nd being Daredevil, then Batman...HOWEVER...remember, Batman does work in the darkness, and as someone said, he has IR tech and such. He and Daredevil are almost at a tie in my book for this fight, but a little bit of an advantage goes to Dardevil for not really being affected otherwise from the light.

Spider-Man jumps up to the ceiling, covers himself in a protective web and takes a nap there...

An hour later, he wakes up and finishes the last man standing (DD or Sabes).

And yes, he can use his spider-sense to pinpoint his enemy, it's not only to warn him about attacks.

Originally posted by who?-kid
Spider-Man jumps up to the ceiling, covers himself in a protective web and takes a nap there...

An hour later, he wakes up and finishes the last man standing (DD or Sabes).

And yes, he can use his spider-sense to pinpoint his enemy, it's not only to warn him about attacks.

Lol !! , but seriously sabes owns everyone here.

Originally posted by Scoobless
ok... what if DD steals caps regular shield AND his energy shield emitter?.... that can be formed into an offensive weapon fairly easily (or so it would seem... never see cap or TM fiddle with controls when they want it to change shape).... and it's powerful enough to hurt the Rhino

That would just be bad, seeing as the energy shield would emit light. That's a target, right there.

And about Batman's infrared vision. It will be completely useless. You must have some light in order for IR to work.

The people with the best senses here are Spiderman, Daredevil, and Sabretooth.

And I believe Spidey has this, with DD second-to-last.

Infrared is long-ish wavelength electromagnetic radiation. IR should detect the radiation emitted from human bodies. If this is a 15 x 15 ft room and there are six people inside it, then room to maneuver is next to nothing, (I'm assuming the room is typical room height) which is to the detriment of Spiderman and Daredevil and a factor in Sabretooth's favour.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Infrared is long-ish wavelength electromagnetic radiation. IR should detect the radiation emitted from human bodies. If this is a 15 x 15 ft room and there are six people inside it, then room to maneuver is next to nothing, (I'm assuming the room is typical room height) which is to the detriment of Spiderman and Daredevil and a factor in Sabretooth's favour.

Is that right? I was under the assumption that IR needed some light source in order to work. Even a dark night still has light. But not this completely dark room.

Someone posted a good scenario earlier. Spidey just stays out of the way, easily avoiding attacks with his spider sense.

Though, I prefer the use spider sense to basically take everyone out quickly but Sabretooth. And even then, I see Spidey coming out on top. I know that Sabretooth can heal quickly like Wolverine, but he can still be knocked out. And if he's down even for a bit, then Spidey wins.

IR radiation is electromagnetic radiation outside of the visible light spectrum. Room temperature objects and people emit radiation in the IR range.

As for hiding in the corner or just staying out of the way, I just don't see it happening. It's a very small room that hinders maneuverability. There are six people in it, three of which (Batman, Daredevil and Sabretooth) can detect him. Batman and Daredevil's methods of detection are definitely superior to the spider sense. Sabretooth's is arguably better, since although reactive, stimulis is always present to react to.

The spider sense reacts to impending danger, allowing preemptive evasion to avert said danger, and whence he has he will no longer be in danger therefore there is nothing to elicit the sense until the next attack. Although it allows Spiderman to make preemptive reaction, the spider sense is still a reactive, not a proactive, phenomenon. I'm not convinced he can use it as a location tool, and if he can I don't see why it would be more effective than the aforementioned three. Again it's a very small room.