Hulk Vs Wolverine (Must see)

Originally posted by Piedmon
No, it's not like there's a layer of adamantium over normal bone. Wolverine's skeleton was molecularly bonded to the adamantium. Meaning his bones contain the metal at a cellular level. Effectively, his bones ARE adamantium.

The qualities of adamantium have seeped into the ligaments, tendons and muscles of Wolverine's body over time. That's why he doesn't fly apart when a train hits him. It's not that his 'soft' cells are harder, they're simply more resiliant and take punishment better. (If anything, this makes his tendons/ligaments more flexible than a normal human's.)

Effectively, his bones ARE adamantium.

Not true his BONES have been LACED... That means his BONES have been ENCASED... The BONES themselves are NOT adamantium...

Originally posted by Tony Stark
Effectively, his bones ARE adamantium.

Not true his BONES have been LACED... That means his BONES have been ENCASED... The BONES themselves are NOT adamantium...

Do you read FF and Ironman related?

Hell do you read people's posts?

Originally posted by soleran30
LOL that scene is serious suckage.........without a face eyes, nose (I'm sure his olfactory is junked in that scene) a guy like punisher couldn't just jump back and unload.........teeth are enamal and bones yet not covered its called comic anatomy and physiology and it only works there.

How do you justify any sort of "science" where its an artists descretion to put things in anyway they want? Well not in 616 I guess but ultimates is doing a better job🙂

How was the story changed?

And yeah Punisher won that fight via a plot device. . . guess you didn't read it did you? 🙄

Originally posted by Piedmon
No, it's not like there's a layer of adamantium over normal bone. Wolverine's skeleton was molecularly bonded to the adamantium. Meaning his bones contain the metal at a cellular level. Effectively, his bones ARE adamantium.

The qualities of adamantium have seeped into the ligaments, tendons and muscles of Wolverine's body over time. That's why he doesn't fly apart when a train hits him. It's not that his 'soft' cells are harder, they're simply more resiliant and take punishment better. (If anything, this makes his tendons/ligaments more flexible than a normal human's.)

Hmm. That's nice explanation.

So his tendons/ligaments are nearly as strong, or as strong as adamantium?

As somebody stated, things in one universe may not be the same as things in another. In 616 his bones never come apart, even with no flesh holding them together. Why? Maybe all his bones are ball&socket type stuff. Who knows... he's a mutant afterall. In this alternate universe his bones may be like a regular humans except fo the metal.

Anyway, it's tough to defend the "same" character in every universe since different events in each universe will make the resulting person different, and this may include genetic mutations as well.

Originally posted by Creshosk
First people were complaining aout the eyes. . .

How was the story changed?

And yeah Punisher won that fight via a plot device. . . guess you didn't read it did you? 🙄

Is professor a Liar hmm well I guess we'll call them secrets with Xavier files......

and actually in the face picture I was looking for the tendons ligaments to the zygomatic process heck ANYWHERE on his face and guess what NONE so I guess just his facial tendons and ligaments aren't covered in adamantium but the rest are.....uh huh bollucks....

Originally posted by Creshosk
Ah, professor Xavier is a liar. . . Oh right. . hey tell me do you read any comic books?

Do you read FF and Ironman related?

Hell do you read people's posts?

Unlikely... More like poorly writen like most X-titles... Where the writers don't do any homework on the characters and make it up as they go...

I buy and read 18-25 tiltles on average every month Marvel and DC mostly...

3 FF titles, 2 Iron Man titles...Etc.

Only if there is actual logic involved in them do i finish them... So no i don't usually finish yours...

Marvels site says that Weapon X scientists grafted the indestructable metal adamantium to logan's skeleton and bone claws.

Per his powers on Marvels site it says Adamantium laced skeleton...

Per Merriam-Webster's for Bonded is:

3 a : to cause to adhere firmly b : to embed in a matrix c : to hold together in a molecule or crystal by chemical bonds
intransitive senses : to hold together or solidify by or as if by means of a bond or binder : COHERE

Per Merriam-Webster's for adhere is:

Entry Word: adhere
Function: verb
Text: to hold to something firmly as if by adhesion

Per Merriam-Webster's for grafted is:

graft
2 entries found for graft.

Main Entry: 2graft
Function: verb
transitive senses
1 a : to cause (a scion) to unite with a stock; also : to unite (plants or scion and stock) to form a graft b : to propagate (a plant) by grafting
2 : to join or unite as if by grafting

The bottomline is that being Laced, Bonded, Grafted, Adhere mean all the same thing...

That the adamantium was attached to his bones... His bones aren't made of adamantium... His bones are laced or bonded or Grafted or adhered with the adamantium.

And I accept your apology...

Per Merriam-Webster's for apology is:

apology
One entry found for apology.

Main Entry: apol·o·gy
Pronunciation: &-'pä-l&-jE
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural -gies
Etymology: Middle French or Late Latin; Middle French apologie, from Late Latin apologia, from Greek, from apo- + logos speech -- more at LEGEND
1 a : a formal justification : DEFENSE b : EXCUSE 2a
2 : an admission of error or discourtesy accompanied by an expression of regret
3 : a poor substitute : MAKESHIFT
synonyms APOLOGY, APOLOGIA, EXCUSE, PLEA, PRETEXT, ALIBI mean matter offered in explanation or defense. APOLOGY usually applies to an expression of regret for a mistake or wrong with implied admission of guilt or fault and with or without reference to palliating circumstances <said by way of apology that he would have met them if he could>. APOLOGIA implies not admission of guilt or regret but a desire to make clear the grounds for some course, belief, or position <his speech was an apologia for his foreign policy>. EXCUSE implies an intent to avoid or remove blame or censure <used illness as an excuse for missing the meeting>. PLEA stresses argument or appeal for understanding or sympathy or mercy <her usual plea that she was nearsighted>. PRETEXT suggests subterfuge and the offering of false reasons or motives in excuse or explanation <used any pretext to get out of work>. ALIBI implies a desire to shift blame or evade punishment and imputes mere plausibility to the explanation <his alibi failed to stand scrutiny>.

😎

ultimate wolverne can be ripped in half thus 616 wolverine can be ripped in half?!?!?

🤨

ummm no..

I mean aside from x-rays, aside from medical evidence, aside from him always remaing in one piece when he shouldn't and ummm aside from people failing to rip him anywhere anytime before...

yeah if you ignore 100% of his 616 showings concerning the matter maybe.. 🙄

friggin idiots..

Originally posted by soleran30
Is professor a Liar hmm well I guess we'll call them secrets with Xavier files......

and actually in the face picture I was looking for the tendons ligaments to the zygomatic process heck ANYWHERE on his face and guess what NONE so I guess just his facial tendons and ligaments aren't covered in adamantium but the rest are.....uh huh bollucks....

Originally posted by Tony Stark

😎

Originally posted by jinzin

I mean aside from x-rays, aside from medical evidence, aside from him always remaing in one piece when he shouldn't and ummm aside from people failing to rip him anywhere anytime before...

Has anybody even TRIED to rip him before?

Just asking.

The only reason this wolvie got ripped in half is training.

Yes that's right training .

Here me out , all the x-men characters take a break inside of a giant room here they talk , drink ect ect . Now regular wolverine is humiliated that his ultimate counterpart is such a pussy (manga counterpart is alright because we all know it will become a Anime and then be unbelievably inconsistent) , so he gives him some training tips to increase his jobber aura to the ungodly amount that regular wolverines is

Wolvie has to

1. Kill his major enemy (check that)

2 regenerate from a stupidly lethal move

3 get eight different titles to include him ALL at the same time

😂

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Has anybody even TRIED to rip him before?

Just asking.

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Has anybody even TRIED to rip him before?

Just asking.

And while I am at it, may I get the issue numbers for the titles where the x-rays confirm that his bones can't be separated, the medical evidence, and the other things you talked about.

Otherwise it is, you know, just talk.

I can actually believe him staying in one piece...the explanation from Piedmon was good. I just need the confirmation.

Originally posted by Creshosk
Things that can be ripped, can be cut or burned right?

Umm...I don't think it goes exactly like that.

I just would like to know if this is correct:

Originally posted by Piedmon
No, it's not like there's a layer of adamantium over normal bone. Wolverine's skeleton was molecularly bonded to the adamantium. Meaning his bones contain the metal at a cellular level. Effectively, his bones ARE adamantium.

The qualities of adamantium have seeped into the ligaments, tendons and muscles of Wolverine's body over time. That's why he doesn't fly apart when a train hits him. It's not that his 'soft' cells are harder, they're simply more resiliant and take punishment better. (If anything, this makes his tendons/ligaments more flexible than a normal human's.)

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Umm...I don't think it goes exactly like that.

I just would like to know if this is correct:

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Hmm. That's nice explanation.

So his tendons/ligaments are nearly as strong, or as strong as adamantium?

They're strong, but I'm not thinking anywhere near as the Adamantium itself.

Originally posted by Creshosk
as I said in the other thread, the times we see his skeleton, there are no ligaments or tendons left. yet somehow his skeleton is still intact.

Would their durability have anything to do with it?

Like I said...I have seen skeletons that are not instantly splattered to pieces when there is nothing else on them...they are very fragile though, but they still stay intact. Now, taken on account that Wolverines bones are about...thousand times more durable then normal bones, would it make them stay intact better?

Originally posted by Tony Stark
That the adamantium was attached to his bones... His bones aren't made of adamantium... His bones are laced or bonded or Grafted or adhered with the adamantium.

Grafted at a MOLECULAR LEVEL. That means each cell of his bones has a tiny piece of adamantium embedded in it. Wolverine's skeleton is 'wrapped' in Adamantium the way you are 'wrapped' in your skin. It's a part of you, and shouldn't be thought of as a separate piece.

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Would their durability have anything to do with it?

Like I said...I have seen skeletons that are not instantly splattered to pieces when there is nothing else on them...they are very fragile though, but they still stay intact. Now, taken on account that Wolverines bones are about...thousand times more durable then normal bones, would it make them stay intact better?