Originally posted by King_MungiI didn't ask for a fan-based website bio. I asked for proof of him doing it during combat.
Just proved my point you don't know the entire facts, read please.http://alphanex.alphaflight.net/index.php/Sasquatch_I
Every time he experiences pain or rage Tanaraq begins to take over augmenting his strength
Originally posted by Clobberin Time!
I didn't ask for a fan-based website bio. I asked for proof of him doing it during combat.
*sigh* points to respect thread, when you said you read it did you simply ignore the Tanaraq posts? and even against the exo-suit Thing he makes a comment he was getting stronger.
Originally posted by King_MungiScans? If he got stronger everytime he was feeling pain or rage how come he could not put down Thing? Or current Juggernaut? Or Hulk?
*sigh* points to respect thread, when you said you read it did you simply ignore the Tanaraq posts? and even against the exo-suit Thing he makes a comment he was getting stronger.
Originally posted by King_Mungi
Nothing other than Sasquatch did any damage to it, so yeah. Luke Cage who was augmented by the Puppet Master who was strong enough to crush Invisible Woman's shield and toss a rocket like nothing did nothing to Ben's hide.Near it as Headlok was tapping into his rage and it clearly stated he was getting stronger. Actually they were augmented from 616 thanks to Llan manipulating the reality.
He was just getting stronger, but he wasn't in Elder God mode. I was always under the impression there was a big difference between the two, because otherwise it wouldn't be any different from fighting the Hulk.
Stronger? Did they actually state they were stronger than the mainstream heroes?
Originally posted by Clobberin Time!
Scans? If he got stronger everytime he was feeling pain or rage how come he could not put down Thing? Or current Juggernaut? Or Hulk?
All the scans are compiled in the respect thread
Because he wasn't in a rage state now was he? and no one won in the Jug fight, and Sasquatch wasn't angry against Hulk he felt guilty for what he did. Also rules of the board PIS/CIS
Originally posted by Accel
Luke Cage amped to any level breaking Sue's shield sounds more jobbing on her part than any thing else, especially seeing that she's beaten Thing, She-Hulk, Titania, and Absorbing Man all at once. Was there any thing else that the suit stood up to?He was just getting stronger, but he wasn't in Elder God mode. I was always under the impression there was a big difference between the two, because otherwise it wouldn't be any different from fighting the Hulk.
Stronger? Did they actually state they were stronger than the mainstream heroes?
Meh! Luke Cage took out the entire Fantastic Four, and as noted was Puppet Master's greatest achievement. I don't think any of the likes of Sasquatch, but I will have to check.
I never said he was, but base Sasquatch strength has tossed 250 tons 1000 feet. Most of the time as noted, Sasquatch holds back due to fear of losing control.
Some were, but I can't say about all of them.
Originally posted by King_Mungi
Meh! Luke Cage took out the entire Fantastic Four, and as noted was Puppet Master's greatest achievement. I don't think any of the likes of Sasquatch, but I will have to check.I never said he was, but base Sasquatch strength has tossed 250 tons 1000 feet. Most of the time as noted, Sasquatch holds back due to fear of losing control.
Some were, but I can't say about all of them.
So, does that mean the alternate Hulk may not have actually been any better than his 616 counterpart?
Originally posted by Accel
So this all seems to go back to my original statement that Ben's suit wasn't as tough as his Thing hide. If Sasquatch not in Elder God mode manages to rip apart the suit, I suspect it's not as tough as his own thing body.So, does that mean the alternate Hulk may not have actually been any better than his 616 counterpart?
Actually he can become Elder God strength, but not be given the powers over death and decay as Tanaraq has or be able to use his magical backlash attack Tanaraq did to Talisman.
Naaaa...he was augmented, but we didn't actually see the final part of the fight. Just Sasquatch emerging unschaved from the building.
Originally posted by King_Mungi
Actually he can become Elder God strength, but not be given the powers over death and decay as Tanaraq has or be able to use his magical backlash attack Tanaraq did to Talisman.Naaaa...he was augmented, but we didn't actually see the final part of the fight. Just Sasquatch emerging unschaved from the building.
Originally posted by Accel
Did they say he was augmented? Were there any heroes who were specifically mentioned to be stronger/more powerful than their 616 counterparts.
Just Sasquatch later during the Llan crisis, compared fighting the two Hulks in a special.
Originally posted by Clobberin Time!
Sasquatch has not shown the ability imo to augment his strength enough during combat for it to become a viable factor. None of his official Marvel bios states such a power.
Oh? then we shall ignore what is said in the comics now? They say Sasquatch is class 70, but if you actually read the respect thread which I doubt now, you would obviously see he is vastly higher than that
As stated in the actual comics the more rage or pain Sasquatch experiences the more Tanaraq takes control.
http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c120/A_Flight2/AlphaFlight23-17.jpg
Originally posted by King_MungiI was just looking at the scans posted above. Ben did take Sasquatches best blows and got right back up and apparantly almost broke Sasquatches jaw. This fight is very close imo.
How so? Sasquatch is stronger, and smarter. Ben has the skills, but that didn't help him in both fights against Sasquatch as Walter is not joke in the skills department either.
Originally posted by juggernaut74
I was just looking at the scans posted above. Ben did take Sasquatches best blows and got right back up and apparantly almost broke Sasquatches jaw. This fight is very close imo.
Naaaa...you missed 90% of the fight were Sasquatch was toying with Ben saying he doesn't want to fight and clearly got the better of him. Then I posted scans of their second fight when Sasquatch wasn't weakened and pissed..it was an annihilation.
Originally posted by King_MungiI didn't miss anything. I just forgot that Sasquatch hit Thing with everthing he had repeatedly and it did nothing but knock Thing down and make him mad.
Naaaa...you missed 90% of the fight were Sasquatch was toying with Ben saying he doesn't want to fight and clearly got the better of him. Then I posted scans of their second fight when Sasquatch wasn't weakened and pissed..it was an annihilation.
Originally posted by juggernaut74
I didn't miss anything. I just forgot that Sasquatch hit Thing with everthing he had repeatedly and it did nothing but knock Thing down and make him mad.
Meh! he didn't hit him with everything he had. If he did Thing would have been dead as Sasquatch can become Tanaraq, the embodiment of death on Earth when it was first commencing alive. He outright commands death and decay and uses it on mankind. As noted Sasquatch was weakened from his transformation.
Originally posted by Jyppe
Depends which Sasquatch this is. Normal, or Mungi's version?Naad, just kidding. Mungi know's his stuff about the hairy beast. 🙂
Who do you think is more durable?
*bah* points to respect thread, anything I have ever claimed has and been shown in the comics
Thing is at base form, but the more angry or more pain Sasquatch gets his durability increase as well.
Originally posted by King_Mungi
*bah* points to respect thread, anything I have ever claimed has and been shown in the comicsThing is at base form, but the more angry or more pain Sasquatch gets his durability increase as well.
You don't really want me back at your Saswuatch respect thread, do you? 🙂 Besides, I did say I appreciate your knowledge about the character. It's that you're the lone Alpha Flight fan around here, so I had to make a joke 🙂 I hope I didn't offend you enough for Jinzin to make thread about it.
Not even Hulk's durability increase that much when he gets angry, but this is a different character, nor did I mean that Sas's durability wouldn't grown over Ben's.
Originally posted by Jyppe
You don't really want me back at your Saswuatch respect thread, do you? 🙂 Besides, I did say I appreciate your knowledge about the character. It's that you're the lone Alpha Flight fan around here, so I had to make a joke 🙂 I hope I didn't offend you enough for Jinzin to make thread about it.Not even Hulk's durability increase that much when he gets angry, but this is a different character, nor did I mean that Sas's durability wouldn't grown over Ben's.
No I wasn't offended by your comment.
I have seen several instances were his durability does increase greatly with rage. On the other hand Sasquatch can as noted become an Elder God. Even Shaman knew anything he would do to the Great Beasts would be merely stop gaps at best and the Great Beasts can never be killed.
