Respek Spider-Man!!

Originally posted by Grimm22
Peter hasn't done any experiments on gamma radiation and has no backround in that type of science

I doubt he is going to somehow figure out how to kill Hulk in his head without any experience in studying Hulk's powers

You're not convincing me. Peter's shown nothing but extremely genius intellect. I see absolutely no reason at all why he couldn't have developed a method of defeating the Hulk in his spare time (yea, even he has spare time every now and then). He's also been highly-advanced in the field of science, which includes gamma radiation and the such.

He's faced Hulk enough times to want to come up with a contigency plan to defeat him--even if that means killing him. I don't understand why you're trying to discredit his ability here. 😐

To my knowledge, Reed has no background in gamma radiation, and yet I doubt you'd say he couldn't whip up a plan to defeat Hulk in about thirty seconds. 🙄

Originally posted by Scoobless
Here's that page where he tells MJ he has already taken time to prep for everyone in the MU

In your face Batman fanboys!

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Well that doesnt mean hes as good at prep as Batman. He also said that other heroes have done the samething as well.

Originally posted by Alfheim
Well that doesnt mean hes as good at prep as Batman. He also said that other heroes have done the samething as well.

Exactly.

Originally posted by Scoobless
Here's that page where he tells MJ he has already taken time to prep for everyone in the MU

In your face Batman fanboys!

😛

That's an awesome scan. 😎

Originally posted by capt it up
with out massive prep hell no

Of course with prep... that's the whole point.... it's not like he's claiming that he can punch the Hulk's head off or anything.

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Originally posted by Metalmanx

To my knowledge, Reed has no background in gamma radiation, and yet I doubt you'd say he couldn't whip up a plan to defeat Hulk in about thirty seconds. 🙄

When have I ever precived Reed to be that smart 😐

Actually with about a day of prep Reed was able to create a device that rendered Hulk Unconscious, with a couple more days he was able to change the device to make Hulk stronger than he had ever been before for a brief matter of time 😐

Originally posted by Scoobless
Of course with prep... that's the whole point.... it's not like he's claiming that he can punch the Hulk's head off or anything.

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Not really how the scan precived it though 😬

In the scan, Peter is saying that he already has a full proof plan to stop Hulk, does he? Hell no

However, with prep could he stop Hulk? Yes.

I think thats a fair assesment

Originally posted by Grimm22
In the scan, Peter is saying that he already has a full proof plan to stop Hulk, does he? Hell no

Why not? ... if he says he's got a plan to do it then I'd be inclined to believe him.

Originally posted by Scoobless
Why not? ... if he says he's got a plan to do it then I'd be inclined to believe him.

Indeed.

And I don't see why there's even a problem with believing it. 😕

Originally posted by H. S. 6
Indeed.

And I don't see why there's even a problem with believing it. 😕

"I've already designed fail safes to take out the Hulk"

NO YOU DIDN'T! HE LIES! PETER ISN'T THAT SMART!

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Is there ANY evidence that Pete HASN'T already determined how to take out the hulk? No?

Okay, is there any evidence that he HAS?

Yeah...him talking to his friggin WIFE, whom I doubt he'd lie to.

Another thing to consider is that writers don't put words in characters' mouths for no reason... if Peter is saying it, then the writer is saying it, and Marvel comics is condoning it.

Originally posted by Soljer
Is there ANY evidence that Pete HASN'T already determined how to take out the hulk? No?

Okay, is there any evidence that he HAS?

Yeah...him talking to his friggin WIFE, whom I doubt he'd lie to.

And it was in a storyline where the villain was empowered by gamma radiation that made him stronger the angrier he got.

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Originally posted by Jade Lightning
Another thing to consider is that writers don't put words in characters' mouths for no reason... if Peter is saying it, then the writer is saying it, and Marvel comics is condoning it.

Damn straight.

Originally posted by Soljer

Yeah...him talking to his friggin WIFE, whom I doubt he'd lie to.

There's a difference between exaggerating and lieing 😐

Pete's saying that if he had too he could find a way to stop Hulk.

He's not saying he already has a full proof plan and all the gadgets and whatnot he needs to take down Hulk

Originally posted by Grimm22
There's a difference between exaggerating and lieing 😐

Pete's saying that if he had too he could find a way to stop Hulk.

He's not saying he already has a full proof plan and all the gadgets and whatnot he needs to take down Hulk

"So, does that mean you've figured out how to beat [the hulk]?"

"Could you really beat the Hulk?"

"Yeah, yeah I could."

Where is the hyperbole? Where is the exaggeration?

"So you've thought about how to take the Hulk"
-Yeah
"Could you beat him?"
-Yeah

No matter how much you may try, Grimm...you certainly aren't rending this feat from Parker.

It's not that hard to believe. Like Scoob said, no one means to interpret this that he'd take down the Hulk in a purely physical battle, but more along the lines of what he did against Absorbing Man, where he used prep and his resourcefulness. In that fight, instead of trying to beat down Creel, he tricked him into absorbing two different chemicals that would explode if they came in contact with one another.

He could possibly do something similar against Hulk- possibly lure him somewhere where he'd have something available to mess with the gamma radiation in his body. What ever he has planned for such an occasion is speculation, but it leaves itself open to the imagination. Although, at the same time, it's also possible he may just be cocky, like other geniuses who thought they had a way to take out Hulk and failed.

Just my 2 cents on the matter, but overall, the topic doesn't need to be the center of focus in this thread.

Originally posted by Grimm22
In the scan, Peter is saying that he already has a full proof plan to stop Hulk, does he? Hell no.

Why are you so against Peter having a fool-proof plan to stop Hulk? He says he does, he's not one to lie. Of course it's with prep. He's not going to web Hulk to do or anything. And he's damn well smart enough to do so, too.

I don't understand why this is so hard to understand.

Peter never says he has a plan to stop Hulk 😐

He's saying that if he had too, he could find a way to stop Hulk

Peter isn't implying that he already knows how to stop Hulk

Rather he is saying that if he had too, he COULD find a way to stop Hulk

Originally posted by Grimm22
Peter never says he has a plan to stop Hulk 😐

He's saying that if he had too, he could find a way to stop Hulk

Peter isn't implying that he already knows how to stop Hulk

Rather he is saying that if he had too, he COULD find a way to stop Hulk

Hmm....

So what is your excuse, Grimm? Ignorant, or illiterate?

Re-read that scan. Here, I'll summarize for you:

"You must have thought how to beat the Hulk." As in, ALREADY considered and thought about it.
"So, did you figure out how to beat him? ... Could you really beat the Hulk?"
"Yeah, yeah I could."

Where is the discrepancy?! Jesus!

Originally posted by Soljer
Hmm....

So what is your excuse, Grimm? Ignorant, or illiterate?

Re-read that scan. Here, I'll summarize for you:

"You must have thought how to beat the Hulk." As in, ALREADY considered and thought about it.
"So, did you figure out how to beat him? ... Could you really beat the Hulk?"
"Yeah, yeah I could."

Where is the discrepancy?! Jesus!

He even goes on to say "And the only way to do it, would be to kill him."

Obviously, he has a plan, and just as clearly, he has already devised a way to take out the Hulk, that evidently, involves killing him.

Grimm, I don't know what scan you read, but try reading it again... the proper one. The entire conversation Pete and MJ are having is about creating plans to take down other heroes if the need arises. MJ even points out that Peter "has thought about it for a while." Where are you confused?

I mean, it's right there for you, in black and white. "So in that case... you must've thought about how to beat the Hulk."

To which Peter answers, "That's right."

And then the conversation goes on to the points that Soljer so kindly brings up.

Seriously, I'm curious. What don't you understand?