Asmodel VS. Nabu

Asmodel couldn't take down Energy Supes who is like SS level power. I'm sure he is above them all. Just cause Presence beat Asmodel doesn't suddenly make Asmodel that powerful. Besides that was after he absorbed the Logoz. Of course he was powerful. But alone Nabu would rape Asmodel.

Originally posted by Beyonder
Nabu wins. Asmodel can't even put down Superman.

This is as dumb as saying Galactus is weak because Thor beat him.
Or Alpha Flight, or Thanos.

Originally posted by Superherovandal
Asmodel couldn't take down Energy Supes who is like SS level power. I'm sure he is above them all. Just cause Presence beat Asmodel doesn't suddenly make Asmodel that powerful. Besides that was after he absorbed the Logoz. Of course he was powerful. But alone Nabu would rape Asmodel.

So a presence powered ( and dead)martian manhunter and Zauriel as well as simulataneously defeating tons of angels and demons without even an effort is nothing?
Nobody was able to stop the guy until he made it to the presence lair.

Superman was able to hold the guy back while GL used an angelic frequency to send the angels back to heaven. Nobody else was able to do jack to him.

He stole the Logoz that was why he was powerful. Superman shouldn't have been able to hold him back if he was that powerful. And the Galactus thing is different because we already have had many comic references to him and have plenty of feats whilst with Asmodel there is only that JLA adventure.

Originally posted by Superherovandal
He stole the Logoz that was why he was powerful. Superman shouldn't have been able to hold him back if he was that powerful. And the Galactus thing is different because we already have had many comic references to him and have plenty of feats whilst with Asmodel there is only that JLA adventure.

He stole Logoz AFTER the presence defeated him and banished him to hell.
Spectre later took Hal as his host, and now Asmodel is back in heaven.

The galactus thing isnt any different. He's shown terrible loses. He can die. Asmodel can't. Bloodlusted and fully powered, you'd better be damn high on the power scale to defeat the guy.

You do know that Fate is very high on the powerscale. And Nabu is much higher.

Etrigan summoned Spectre Force to hell, and used the feather of an angels wings and the fire of a demon, which can bind anything together, to bind the Spectre to Azmodel.

Originally posted by Superherovandal
You do know that Fate is very high on the powerscale. And Nabu is much higher.

Yes, I know. Is he heaven conquering powerful though?
Could he easily survive the destruction of the multiverse?

yeah he is one of the Lords of Order. He is an essential to the universe. He is really up there is power. I'd place him above the Quintessence.

Exactly. He's part of the universe, if the multiverse were destroyed, he'd go as well. Asmodel exists independently from all that. At the height of his power he's far above a Lord of Order. Far older as well.

thats because all the angels exist separate from the multiverse. It by no means shows his power. And Nabu was created before the multiverse

Created before the currently multiverse?
Angels have been around before the creation of all concepts.
Once again, when overtaking heaven, it took the presence to stop the guy.
There are 4 armies in heaven, each with many, many powerful beings. Zauriel and MM were empowered by the presence, and they werent able to do anything.

What does Nabu have to match this?

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
He stole Logoz AFTER the presence defeated him and banished him to hell.
Spectre later took Hal as his host, and now Asmodel is back in heaven.

The galactus thing isnt any different. He's shown terrible loses. He can die. Asmodel can't. Bloodlusted and fully powered, you'd better be damn high on the power scale to defeat the guy.

When does this happen ? I have the original fight against Asmodel, and he didn't seem that powerful. I mean blue Supes was holding his own against him ? You kind of sugesting he's on the same level as Michael and Luci, but i doubt he could survive a Demiurge explosion ?

Originally posted by yahman
When does this happen ? I have the original fight against Asmodel, and he didn't seem that powerful. I mean blue Supes was holding his own against him ? You kind of sugesting he's on the same level as Michael and Luci, but i doubt he could survive a Demiurge explosion ?

Depends on what you mean. The only thing the Angels are vulnerable to are specific vibrations that they can produce. How GL was able to produce one of these is anyones guess. Even with this, all it does is send the Angel back to heaven, where they can come back in a "flesh suit" while keeping quite a bit of their power. As his blood is already the universal solvent, what will such an explosion do to him?

Asmodel has the power to create and destroy matter, not just manipulate it. How far it extends has never been stated so I wont go around saying he's going to create universes since he's never shown even a hint of wanting to do so. What he wanted was to reunite heaven and hell and become the new god...which he nearly suceeded at except of course he's nothing compared to the presence... Once he got close to the presence, there was no battle..He had no chance. He of course has cosmic awareness and knows the weakness to just about anyone or anything. His Blood is the universal solvent, he's beyond superpowers..etc etc..all that good stuff we know about yadda yadda.

I posted that pic of Supes wrestling him as a feat for Supes...because that is what it truly is. Like Thanos battle with odin or galactus. Similar to those 2 battles, Asmodel should have won fairly easily, but then there would have been any JLA comics, right? By the same token, if Odin or Galactus would have really battled Thanos, there wouldnt be any Thanos for people to enjoy.

Simiarly, Supes could hold Mxy back physically, it doesnt mean Mxy couldnt utterly destroy Supes.

Those pics are from JLA: Paradise lost..a good read if you are really interested in Azzy.

do you even know what a solvent is? It is something that can make something dissolve. It wouldn't protect him one bit from a demiurgic explosion.

Originally posted by Superherovandal
do you even know what a solvent is? It is something that can make something dissolve. It wouldn't protect him one bit from a demiurgic explosion.

What does that have to do with anything. I'm simply saying thats his blood, which would already make the rest of him impossibly powerful... he's cut from the same mold as Lucifer and had the same plan, so who knows? Even if he didnt, he'd just end up right back in heaven, and come right back. Now can Nabu survive one?
Can you give us any feats for Nabu?

Asmodel is powerful no doubt but not even close to as powerful as Micheal or Lucifer. I'd place him at Skyfather level at most.

Yea, I wouldnt claim him to be Lucifer or Micheal level either. Gods just a bit mad with him at the moment.

Originally posted by Superherovandal
Asmodel is powerful no doubt but not even close to as powerful as Micheal or Lucifer. I'd place him at Skyfather level at most.

I get the impression he's more Celestial level ?

I know Celestials can manipulate matter, but can they create or truly destroy it?