NJO Kyle Katarn and NJO Jaden Korr vs. Count Dooku

Started by Darth_Glentract3 pages

And Star Wars is a movie. None of it is real.

It specifies that there are Sith, but it doesn't say all of them were there.

You're hopeless.

Originally posted by Darth_Glentract
And Star Wars is a movie. None of it is real.

It specifies that there are Sith, but it doesn't say all of them were there.

WTF?

Yeah really. How did this conversation start? The thread's about Jaden + Kyle v.s. Dooku, now we're talking about off topic stuff....

Actually, Kyle and Jaden likely did have to fight through all those badguys.

If we take the JK:JO and JK:JA games as official, almost every time a reborn shows up, it triggers a voice over/cinematic, and for the most part, even gameplay wise, you are not allowed to advanced until that individual is defeated.

Because the games don't have motion reels to back them up, we can only assume that Kyle and Jaden did those events, as they were mandated and triggered.

If that was the case, I may just have to go against the good Count here.

I'm not sure, I don't think it makes sense that one person could kill hundreds of dark jedi or siths alone, still there ain't many other possibilities. Desann had hundreds if not thousands of his warriors to gain power at the valley of the jedi, then about he sent many of them to guard his ship, the one that Admiral Fyyar is on, the Doombringer or something. Anyway Kyle was alone on that ship and made it to the reactor core and escaped and it must have been heavily guarded. But as I said I'm not sure.

I don't doubt that Jaden and Kyle went through dozens of reborn, but if you want to get that technical, only a few of them were Twins or Masters; anything worth challenging.

Still it's a great accomplishment to kill a dark jedi who could stand up too Luke and many other force users with only around 2-3 days of training. This is NJO Kyle with much more training and experience.

Desaan had more than two days of training. And Luke didn't want to hurt him. He wished only to turn him, to bring him back to the Light. He would have thrashed Desaan had it been necessary. The Dark Jedi is good, but Luke is the best there is at this point.

Reborn are pretty much regular people with lightsabers. It's an acomplishment to defeat them, but not amazing. (Except, like was stated earlier, a Master).

I was talking about Kyle, he stood up too a dark jedi who stood up too Luke (Desann) and had only around 2-3 days of training. Desann had a trained for a long time but Kyle was fresh again after he had exiled himself from his powers. And yes I belive Luke would have beaten Desann but not thrashed. While he and Luke were fighting Luke was falling too the ground several times and barley managed too survive at different times. Then Desann pushed him away and thought he was dead.
Luke also said that neither of them should have encounterd him alone, now that he had gone to the valley of the jedi he would be more powerful than ever.
After the battle Kyle asked Luke why he fought Desann alone, Luke said he couldent feel him coming. Does this mean he would have ran if he did? I don't know.

Originally posted by Darth_Glentract
And Star Wars is a movie. None of it is real.

It specifies that there are Sith, but it doesn't say all of them were there.

Just...Wanna...Reply...

Musn't...post...Star Wars...

ACK!

Gotta leave before I reply to something.

Did I just see Sorgo?

Anyway, Kyle and Jaden take this.

Maybe. Kyle and Jaden are a bit like OWK and Anakin if you think about it. especially if you turn to the dark side (emphesis on the master vs apprentice ***** fight at the end). Dooku will definetly put up an amazing fight, but I think the Jedi duo have this one.

Well the difference here is that unlike Obi and Anakin they (at least Kyle) use offensive force powers, even some that belongs to the dark side. Dooku will have a hard time with deflecting all that power considering that both Kyle and Jaden are very strong jedi.

Unlike Obi, you mean.. Anakin was majorly offensive too, even as jedi.

Not in force powers, did you ever see Anakin using an offensive force power against Dooku?

Depends on what you mean by your little force power.. 😕
It is a fact though that Anakin practiced Shienn wich is the most offensively based style of fighting.

Originally posted by Ianus
Uh, because THE ARGUMENT (That's the thread idea we're working with) specifies that there ARE Sith in the ACADEMY. While canonically, he wouldn't have to fight nearly as many. It's a ****ing game, Glentract. Wake up.

If its EU though, its as available to be used for evidence as the books. You have to defeat the enemies in order to win the game, and the game tells as much of a story as any of the star wars books. If you accept EU then you have to throw in that Katarn and Korr will have force heal on their side (which is a really really annoying power for Jedi to have, and i think it ruins the gameplay, you don't have to be very good, you just have to take time between fights) but it should be counted as EU as anything else.
I'm picking Dooku though, i think the movies show the most powerful Jedi of all time. EU picks up the bits and pieces, meaning if they were important enough to be in the movie, they are more powerful and more influential than those that weren't.

So you're saying Darth Maul was more powerful and influential than Ragnos?