Originally posted by PorscheShe was talking about not finding a upper limit with one arm. Not two.
Alright, that looks like the limit of his strength with one arm. The guy says his strength has trippled, probably based on how much he's struggling. Take a look at that vein.
He appears not to have found his limit with one arm.
The estimate is that the strength has trippled. He can probably lift some more, maybe 4 times instead of 3.. who knows. Problem with Superman is he expends his energy and needs to recharge from the sun. That's not the level of strength he'll be able to keep up during a major fight. Guys like Thanos channel cosmic energy from who knows where. It's not a fair fight for Superman.
By the way, Thanos IS fast with reflexes. There is a scan floating around here where he snatches something from Silver Surfer as he flies by at speed.
"I think doing the same to Orion, WW, MM, GL, and Steel more than qualifies"
When he was on to take on the world, no? Aka pissed.
"or perhaps, Mongul, Jailer, Silver Banshee, and Master Jailer who all had prep when supes was in a weakened condition. Or how about beating Cyborg who effortlessly beat Eradicator, Steel, Superboy, and Supergirl simultaeneously without even breaking a sweat?"
Without breaking a sweat its alot of scretch considering Cyborg was manhandling him until the end.
And considering Kal had erraciator`s help against him.
And considering Rads saved him from being blasted with kryptonite.
There was no " without breaking a sweat" there.
"Obviously, you don't need one to defeat Thanos either. Hell, Byrne Supes beat a pre crisis Superboy who was at full strength...someone who is far above Thanos strength class."
Byrne issue? He didnt. He even stated Superboy was stronger than he was. Unless my memory is fuzzy like hell.
Getting out the fight alive yes he did.
"Tell that as well to people who bring that up for Thanos. Current Superman can't destroy planets?"
With mere fists? Or as a result of a battle? No. He certainly didnt showed it yet. Not at regular levels.
"I think you better stop reading those
80's Byrne comics. Supes is a good guy, because he doesnt just go around destroying planets, doesnt mean he cant. "
Sarcasm apart, the fact he "only" manages to move one when sundipped its proof for me that even currently he cant unless he uses that plot device.
"I'm well aware they have both been hit by slower opponents, but can anyone show Thanos fighting at light speed? Supes has...where are the Thanos scans for this?"
I cant tell if he ever did. What i can say is he uses combat speed just fine and Superman doesnt usually. Superman has -fought- at light speeds how many times?
I am not talking about flying here.
As for the quote button, i prefer this way.
Originally posted by Sir Whirlysplat
you can't talk when your lifting 😂 you expel air on the positive part of a lift 😄 Doh!!
LOL you can talk when you lift if you call hindu squats lifting🙂
Anyway a one arm lift like SM did was more then his arm though it was his whole body the way he was positioned.
Originally posted by olympian
"I think doing the same to Orion, WW, MM, GL, and Steel more than qualifies"When he was on to take on the world, no? Aka pissed.
"or perhaps, Mongul, Jailer, Silver Banshee, and Master Jailer who all had prep when supes was in a weakened condition. Or how about beating Cyborg who effortlessly beat Eradicator, Steel, Superboy, and Supergirl simultaeneously without even breaking a sweat?"
Without breaking a sweat its alot of scretch considering Cyborg was manhandling him until the end.
And considering Kal had erraciator`s help against him.
And considering Rads saved him from being blasted with kryptonite.
There was no " without breaking a sweat" there.
"Obviously, you don't need one to defeat Thanos either. Hell, Byrne Supes beat a pre crisis Superboy who was at full strength...someone who is far above Thanos strength class."
Byrne issue? He didnt. He even stated Superboy was stronger than he was. Unless my memory is fuzzy like hell.
Getting out the fight alive yes he did.
"Tell that as well to people who bring that up for Thanos. Current Superman can't destroy planets?"
With mere fists? Or as a result of a battle? No. He certainly didnt showed it yet. Not at regular levels.
"I think you better stop reading those
80's Byrne comics. Supes is a good guy, because he doesnt just go around destroying planets, doesnt mean he cant. "Sarcasm apart, the fact he "only" manages to move one when sundipped its proof for me that even currently he cant unless he uses that plot device.
"I'm well aware they have both been hit by slower opponents, but can anyone show Thanos fighting at light speed? Supes has...where are the Thanos scans for this?"
I cant tell if he ever did. What i can say is he uses combat speed just fine and Superman doesnt usually. Superman has -fought- at light speeds how many times?
I am not talking about flying here.
As for the quote button, i prefer this way.
I skipped to the bottom, your jumbled up mess takes to much effort to keep reading, and from what I did scan through, was wrong.
Then start naming them. Id like to see how wrong i am.
Wich scans preferencly, id like to see on how easily he beat Cyborg, when he straight out defeated that pre crisis Superboy, the times he showed the ability to use faster than light combat speed and the times he has destroyed planets as a result of some fight.
Good hunting.
Originally posted by olympian
Then start naming them. Id like to see how wrong i am.Wich scans preferencly, id like to see on how easily he beat Cyborg, when he straight out defeated that pre crisis Superboy, the times he showed the ability to use faster than light combat speed and the times he has destroyed planets as a result of some fight.
Good hunting.
I'll name them the moment, you make a post that doesn't have to be carefully read because you can't use quotes.
I've shown scans of Supes doing all sorts of outrageous stunts. The proof is on you. Show us Thanos fighting at faster than light speeds, or his "unlimited" strength.
Good luck on your search. Thanos = The new Goku.
"I'll name them the moment, you make a post that doesn't have to be carefully read because you can't use quotes."
Wonderful excuse. What me using the quote option or not have to do with your inability to present proof?
"I've shown scans of Supes doing all sorts of outrageous stunts. The proof is on you."
Not the ones i asked. Where did he defeat pre crisis Superboy? It sure didnt happened when they met.
1) When was he ever calm when he fought the likes of WW and Orion as well as MM? He always shows up either pissed or mindcontrolled.
2) When did he ever defeated Cyborg without breaking a sweat? In the "return" he had help and during Hunter Prey he was getting kicked around.
3) And when he showed ftl combat reflexes,aka not flying.
Nada so far.
"Show us Thanos fighting at faster than light speeds, or his "unlimited" strength. "
Considering i didnt stated he had both, what am i suposse to show exactly?
"Good luck on your search"
What a lack of originality. Like the rest so far.
Originally posted by olympian
Yo Whirly anything new about Miracleman?
No sadly but it looks like it will all be resolved soon, (but its been 13 years (ouch!)) and Gaiman has finished the Silver age so as soon as copyright is sorted you guys will be able to see what I make all the fuss about - I read Olympus back to back against the last 6 issues of supreme Power. Even now its still better!!!!
A taste of what the fuss was about then and will be again.
"How about nooooooooo."
How about yes, a guy faster than Spidey in comics pretty much can hold its own. Especially when going against the likes of Drax and winning.
Superman does not fight (combat wise) at ftls. Not that i have seen. So?
"No sadly but it looks like it will all be resolved soon, (but its been 13 years (ouch!)) and Gaiman has finished the Silver age so as soon as copyright is sorted you guys will be able to see what I make all the fuss about - I read Olympus back to back against the last 6 issues of supreme Power. Even now its still better!!!!"
I just have to read it, even with the coincidence of the title 😉
For now, those scans will serve the porpuse, the artwork is outstanding.
And am i wrong or the artist is the same from a certain Swamp Thing run with Moore?
Originally posted by olympian
"How about nooooooooo."How about yes, a guy faster than Spidey in comics pretty much can hold its own. Especially when going against the likes of Drax and winning.
Superman does not fight (combat wise) at ftls. Not that i have seen. So?
"No sadly but it looks like it will all be resolved soon, (but its been 13 years (ouch!)) and Gaiman has finished the Silver age so as soon as copyright is sorted you guys will be able to see what I make all the fuss about - I read Olympus back to back against the last 6 issues of supreme Power. Even now its still better!!!!"
I just have to read it, even with the coincidence of the title 😉
For now, those scans will serve the porpuse, the artwork is outstanding.
And am i wrong or the artist is the same from a certain Swamp Thing run with Moore?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v372/zball2000/08222005124311pm3un.jpg
