All Star Superman vs Thanos????

"Yahman suggested that Thanos's limitless strength, was maybe Handbook Hyper bole, that it is yet to be proven. Thanos has struggled against the likes of champion and in coclusive against thor and Thing"

In....what against Thor and Thing?

They never won against him. Not even when increased.

"They didn't find a limit to Superman All Star either.. They said it was incaculable... but he DID do 200 quintillion effortlessly, with one hand."

After being amped. The Thread should be "sundipped all star Superman".

And btw, is issue two out?

Originally posted by olympian
"Yahman suggested that Thanos's limitless strength, was maybe Handbook Hyper bole, that it is yet to be proven. Thanos has struggled against the likes of champion and in coclusive against thor and Thing"

In....what against Thor and Thing?

They never won against him. Not even when increased.

"They didn't find a limit to Superman All Star either.. They said it was incaculable... but he DID do 200 quintillion effortlessly, with one hand."

After being amped. The Thread should be "sundipped all star Superman".

And btw, is issue two out?

Not yet....

I have to admit I have not read one yet....

My monthly comics are waiting for me at Orbital in Charing Cross Road, the best comic book shop in the UK imo.

ALL-STAR SUPERMAN is GOD!!!!!!!!, I LOVE thanos, but in a slugfest.....he loses baddddddddddddd, if thanos uses his mind, than superman minus well make himself a kryptonite dildo and bend over becuase his ass is f***ed

Originally posted by olympian
"Thanos has never fought anybody faster than Superman."

Silver Surfer for example is what?

And when did Surfer fight him at anything close to superspeed?

Originally posted by olympian
"Thanos could barely hit Cap, whos not even close to Superman in fighting/reflexive speeds."

Is this a mention to IG? The same where he ko Cap with one tap?

What does the fact that he can KO a human have to do with speed? Matter of fact, he had to use the gauntlet to catch him because he kept evading Thanos with ease. I guess Captain America must not be faster than light too!!

Originally posted by olympian
"None of the Heralds fight a high speeds, if so prove it?"

Firelord, Fallen One, Silver Surfer.....never heard of those?

And im still waiting someone to show me where Superman has -fought - at ftls.

Maybe that under 2 minute to the sun and back thing with Wonder Woman? Hmmm... Maybe containing a nuclear explosion with superspeed and tossing it into the sun before it affected anything? and this was while exposed to kryptonite. (Both times)

Originally posted by olympian
"I think Superman is stronger also, which you people can't even prove that Thanos is stronger than Superman"

He beats on top tiers for fun and stands its own against guys way above. I wonder.....

Gee, becasue Supes has never beat any top tier characters before...

Originally posted by olympian
"and Superman is just as or more durable than Thanos."

Thanos its more durable than strong. Its his main asset.

Yes, he's very strong against blasts, but adamantium pierces him just fine, and he's still slow, can't really fly, doesnt possess kryptonite or magic, hasnt shown any Supes level strength feats..etc..

Originally posted by olympian
When Superman starts to take Skyfather and above level attacks and get up for more, then you can assume such thing.

Mageddon was a weapon made to destroy gods. Supes absorbed the warhead and smiled...

Originally posted by ZephroCarnelian
Unless it's magic, then he's not turning Supes into anything. 🙂

How come?

did anybody read Thanos mini?

Thanos > Adam (with gem)
Thanos blasted Galactus (not weak)
Thanos stoped Fallen One (someone who was about to kill test tube(Galactus) who was using Hyperspeed and has powercosmic ( plus void powers).
Thanos took the best of Kismet ( beyonder)
Thanos defeated Kismet

Thanos also showed that he can heal himself and (others), levitate etc.

Galatus's Robots k.o'ed Adam ---- Thanos vaporized them all with his energies.

Thanos never has problem with speed.

he can always trap people (people who are more powerful than himself)

Originally posted by kgkg
did anybody read Thanos mini?

Thanos > Adam (with gem)
Thanos blasted Galactus (not weak)
Thanos stoped Fallen One (someone who was about to kill test tube(Galactus) who was using Hyperspeed and has powercosmic ( plus void powers).
Thanos took the best of Kismet ( beyonder)
Thanos defeated Kismet

Thanos also showed that he can heal himself and (others), levitate etc.

Galatus's Robots k.o'ed Adam ---- Thanos vaporized them all with his energies.

Thanos never has problem with speed.

he can always trap people (people who are more powerful than himself)

'Thanos > Adam (with gem)' -never happened

'Thanos blasted Galactus (not weak)' - Galkactus got up as if it were nothing, he was caught suprised

'Thanos stoped Fallen One (someone who was about to kill test tube(Galactus) who was using Hyperspeed and has powercosmic ( plus void powers).' - What the hell are you talking about ? .... 'Kill test tube Galactus,' HARDLY ! The power over Dark matter is the power cosmic, i.e. Like Terrax's T.K.

"Thanos took the best of Kismet ( beyonder)"

Since when was her name KISMET ? .... he tricked he not over powered her, which is hardly impressive seeing as she was a the mental capacity of a piece of fruit ! .... I think must also point out that He was floored / ko'ed by a NuKe level blast !!!!!!!!!!!

"Galatus's Robots k.o'ed Adam ---- Thanos vaporized them all with his energies." - As if Supes couldn't handle these Dudes ! They don't have Souls, Adam (Whose normal powers are diminshed by the gem) didn't stand a chance !

"Thanos never has problem with speed.

he can always trap people "

What !!!!!!!!! According to who .... YOU ????????

😕

'Thanos > Adam (with gem)' -never happened

What the hell are you talking about ? .... 'Kill test tube Galactus,' HARDLY ! The power over Dark matter is the power cosmic, i.e. Like Terrax's T.K.

"The issense of the void sustains it. The binding halo by which galaxies are are made solvent." --------powercosmic?

he tricked he not over powered her, which is hardly impressive seeing as she was a the mental capacity of a piece of fruit ! .... I think must also point out that He was floored / ko'ed by a NuKe level blast

As if Supes couldn't handle these Dudes ! They don't have Souls, Adam (Whose normal powers are diminshed by the gem) didn't stand a chance !

What !!!!!!!!! According to who .... YOU ????????

Originally posted by kgkg
Adam was knocked out Thanos wasn't.

Dark matter is the power Cosmic? you can prove this?

"The issense of the void sustains it. The binding halo by which galaxies are are made solvent." --------powercosmic?

She was weakened still hard to kill, Nuke level (and how can you tell it's a Nuke level? ) --------------- Galactus attack doesn't always destroy cities yet it's powerful to K.O beings with high durability.

Adam without the Gem ------- is herald level

No he did that to Odin

"She was weakened still hard to kill, Nuke level (and how can you tell it's a Nuke level? )"

I used my eyes !

"you can prove this? "

He makes reference to him giving him the power over Dark matter .... Its pretty irrelevant anyway.

"Adam was knocked out Thanos wasn't"

His normal power is greatly diminished with the Gem, and IMO he was well below herald level !

"No he did that to Odin"

Yes .... because Odin's renowned for his speed 🙄

I used my eyes !

ex. Galactus , Odin etc they don't always destoy Galaxies , or Planet but blast are stong enough to knock Cosmics

He makes reference to him giving him the power over Dark matter .... Its pretty irrelevant anyway.

His normal power is greatly diminished with the Gem, and IMO he was well below herald level !

Yes .... because Odin's renowned for his speed

and didn't thanos Stop Fallen One who was using Speed????

Speed in battle is overrated.

When you have power like Odin , Big G speed doesn't mean much.

Originally posted by kgkg
Really you looked at the size of the whole. Like I said environmental damage doesn't mean much.

ex. Galactus , Odin etc they don't allows destoy Galaxies , or Planet but blast are stong enough to knock Cosmics

what about the Galaxy part......... irrelevant agreed

Again can't be certain. Adam weaken has taken Cosmic in the past, either way low showing for Adam.

When big Dawgs battle Speed has very little do with battles.

and didn't thanos Stop Fallen One who was using Speed????

Speed in battle is overrated.

When you have power like Odin , Big G speed doesn't mean much.

The size of the Whole .... ? I think you mean hole .... and yes its Megaton level destruction.

"Like I said environmental damage doesn't mean much.

ex. Galactus , Odin etc they don't allows destoy Galaxies , or Planet but blast are stong enough to knock Cosmics"

Garbage ! With this arguement i could argue that Cyclops is capable of destroying plannets ! Plus none of these characters are powerful enough to destroy galaxies with single blasts ! Galactus would form into a star, if his energies where not stored within his suit ! How many stars in a galaxy ? 🙄 ....

When big Dawgs .... Im very confused as to what this has to do with your 'Dawgs' ?

"Speed in battle is overrated."

I agree .... but it was your original point was to suggest that Thanos had super speed !

Garbage ! With this arguement i could argue that Cyclops is capable of destroying plannets ! Plus none of these characters are powerful enough to destroy galaxies with single blasts ! Galactus would form into a star, if his energies where not stored within his suit ! How many stars in a galaxy ? 🙄 ....

Did Odin create a hole when he K.O Drax , and SS etc it depends on how much power the being has. Beyonder is a powerful cube. Weaken yes still powerful.

Cyclops???????? has he destoyed planets?? is he capable ? you know he isn't

is Beyonder????? yes and am sure you know that as well

I agree .... but it was your original point was to suggest that Thanos had super speed !

And never has problem hitting speeders either(other than Runner ( with gem) , so it's a valid assumption that Thanos can indeed deal with speed and hit his target ( trap his target)

Originally posted by kgkg
Point is "Hole" can't determine the level of power of that blast not always anyway.

Did Odin create a hole when he K.O Drax , and SS etc it depends on how much power the being has. Beyonder is a powerful cube. Weaken yes still powerful.

Cyclops???????? has he destoyed planets?? is he capable ? you know he isn't

is Beyonder????? yes and am sure you know that as well

Thanos has stopped people with Speed before.

And never has problem hitting speeders either(other than Runner ( with gem) , so it's a valid assumption that Thanos can indeed deal with speed and hit his target ( trap his target)

"Cyclops???????? has he destoyed planets?? is he capable ? you know he isn't"

But your arguement suggest other wise ! I.e. it has put Thing on his arse ... who has been hit by Gladiator .... who has destroyed planets with his fists ! Silly arguement isn't it ? 🙂

Originally posted by Fishy 500
"Cyclops???????? has he destoyed planets?? is he capable ? you know he isn't"

But your arguement suggest other wise ! I.e. it has put Thing on his arse ... who has been hit by Gladiator .... who has destroyed planets with his fists ! Silly arguement isn't it ? 🙂

And when did I say Thing can take world destroying attacks

One can use that power, but are they using it always?

So you are saying we should judge how strong the blast is how much environmental damage it causes?

"What does the fact that he can KO a human have to do with speed? Matter of fact, he had to use the gauntlet to catch him because he kept evading Thanos with ease. I guess Captain America must not be faster than light too!!"

Is there any doubt in comics, that he IS? The man evades anything including Thors hammer to Hulks fists. 👿

And again i wasent the one saying Thanos can fight faster than light. Im saying and i stand by it until i see a scan showing it, that Superman doesnt and never did in continuity either.

As a final note, the IG wasent operating at high levels until the end of that fight. Just so no one gets the idea that he had the full power.

"Maybe that under 2 minute to the sun and back thing with Wonder Woman? Hmmm... Maybe containing a nuclear explosion with superspeed and tossing it into the sun before it affected anything? and this was while exposed to kryptonite. (Both times)"

Scans galore coming, right?

I can already say he wasent going FTL against WW.

"Gee, becasue Supes has never beat any top tier characters before..."

Post crisis? What top Tiers in the level of WW, Orion and above has be owned casually like Thanos?

Its going to be a short list. Get ready for it.

"Yes, he's very strong against blasts, but adamantium pierces him just fine, and he's still slow, can't really fly, doesnt possess kryptonite or magic, hasnt shown any Supes level strength feats..etc.."

Combat feats count in comics as much as lifting feats. And the ones Thanos have are higher.

Including before his poweup destroying a planet when going against Drax.

If you dont count combat feats:Juggernaut/Thanos/BlackAdam and more would never qualify as big guns.

Classic Juggernaut of course.

"Mageddon was a weapon made to destroy gods. Supes absorbed the warhead and smiled..."

Wich is vague. You just need to prove how it compares with getting blasted by Odin. Actually how it even compares with the Gods of Superman universe, first.

Its the same case with Hulk`feat with the flames of life, where it was stated the protecting device was built to withstand gods.

Hulk destroyed it.

But without gods showing up, trying and leave uswith acomparation, we have nada.

Was it any in that feat?

Originally posted by olympian
"What does the fact that he can KO a human have to do with speed? Matter of fact, he had to use the gauntlet to catch him because he kept evading Thanos with ease. I guess Captain America must not be faster than light too!!"

Is there any doubt in comics, that he IS? The man evades anything including Thors hammer to Hulks fists. 👿

And again i wasent the one saying Thanos can fight faster than light. Im saying and i stand by it until i see a scan showing it, that Superman doesnt and never did in continuity either.

As a final note, the IG wasent operating at high levels until the end of that fight. Just so no one gets the idea that he had the full power.

"Maybe that under 2 minute to the sun and back thing with Wonder Woman? Hmmm... Maybe containing a nuclear explosion with superspeed and tossing it into the sun before it affected anything? and this was while exposed to kryptonite. (Both times)"

Scans galore coming, right?

I can already say he wasent going FTL against WW.

"Gee, becasue Supes has never beat any top tier characters before..."

Post crisis? What top Tiers in the level of WW, Orion and above has be owned casually like Thanos?

Its going to be a short list. Get ready for it.

"Yes, he's very strong against blasts, but adamantium pierces him just fine, and he's still slow, can't really fly, doesnt possess kryptonite or magic, hasnt shown any Supes level strength feats..etc.."

Combat feats count in comics as much as lifting feats. And the ones Thanos have are higher.

Including before his poweup destroying a planet when going against Drax.

If you dont count combat feats:Juggernaut/Thanos/BlackAdam and more would never qualify as big guns.

Classic Juggernaut of course.

"Mageddon was a weapon made to destroy gods. Supes absorbed the warhead and smiled..."

Wich is vague. You just need to prove how it compares with getting blasted by Odin.

Its the same case with Hulk`feat with the flames of life, where it was stated the protecting device was built to withstand gods.

Hulk destroyed it.

But without gods showing up, trying and leave uswith acomparation, we have nada.

Was it any in that feat?

"But Superman has been on panel fighting at least 10x lightspeed."

Scans.

Better not be flying and or simply charging at someone with those speeds.

"They fought on Earth, then through space, to the sun, all the way back... fought for another 11 pages or something...
And it was all under two minutes.
When it takes light 8 and a half to go -1- way.
That's far faster than lightspeed."

Again scans where its stated they wer fighting FTL. I dont want any pseudo science takes here. Not anything against, mind you.

Originally posted by olympian
Scans.

Better not be flying and or simply charging at someone with those speeds.

"They fought on Earth, then through space, to the sun, all the way back... fought for another 11 pages or something...
And it was all under two minutes.
When it takes light 8 and a half to go -1- way.
That's far faster than lightspeed."

Again scans where its stated they wer fighting FTL.

Originally posted by olympian
"But Superman has been on panel fighting at least 10x lightspeed."

Scans.

Better not be flying and or simply charging at someone with those speeds.

"They fought on Earth, then through space, to the sun, all the way back... fought for another 11 pages or something...
And it was all under two minutes.
When it takes light 8 and a half to go -1- way.
That's far faster than lightspeed."

Again scans where its stated they wer fighting FTL. I dont want any pseudo science takes here. Not anything against, mind you.

Again, your mess up there is too much to dig through.
I and others have put up the WW and Supes fight before. Do a search..why should we do all the work for you? Juntai explained it well enough that I dont have to.

How about you show some evidence for something?

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