Originally posted by 8bitChris
Storm made Africa into a top economic "country" huh? Even if we were talking about the continent, it's still as poor as ever in the Marvel U. Wakanda is the only hugely successful country on the continent and Storm had nothing to do with that.
oh, i put country, my bad. anyway, if it was wakanda alone, then why is Africa still poor in the marvel universe? why are people still starving? why are people not getting what they need? admit it, we both know that it wasn't only wakanda or else africa would have been the same as it was even before HOM.
Whether you like it or not, race is a sensitive enough issue that Storm will always be safe from losing her powers. Repeating history doesn't have anything to do with it. Who said it was illegal? Nobody. If more than 98% of the worlds' mutant population lost powers than Storm should have been as game as anyone. Heck, she is one of the more expendable X-men. They already got enough leaders.
no it's not, storms core character plays a huge part in what makes her safe. yes, race may play a small part, but it's not the only thing like you make it out to be. yes, repeated history does have a factor, because we know what would happen. she would lead the team for a while, figure she needs time off to find herself, maybe get another love interest. we know, because it has already happens. it would be boring, to see her go through this again. storm is in the same game as everyone, but she is a very popular character. being a leader is not about it. storm is one of the most popular if not the most popular x-woman right now. she was voted most popular in wizard to people who do read comics, and voted most recognizable to people who don't read comics. the reason that storm didn't have her powers taken away imo is that she is a strong female, she was the x-mens first female leader, she was comics first female leader, she is very popular, her powers are unique.
I'm not the one being ignorant one here. You are being extremely ignorant if you think there is no present race issue pervading through all facets of the media and our culture in general. I'm sure it's nice to believe that we're all one big happy family, but that's not the case. I stand by my opinion that Storm was a lot safer than other mutant characters because of her skin color. I'm not saying that its fair; it is just how it is.
you are trying to make it out as the only reason that storm still has her powers is because she is black, which is not the case. as i have said, it plays a small part, but the reason she has fans is because of her core character. people don't go "omg, she's black, now i like her no matter what". no one is like that.
Nobody called Emma the "sole leader" of the X-men in HoM
wolverine called her the leader of the x-men
The attack plan? Yeah, Cyclops made it up. That's right, Cyclops was leading both X-men and Avengers.
cyke was the most qualified and expierenced as a leader. no one is saying he is a bad leader, and no one is saying that storm is overall better than cyke. i think your just missinterpreting what i'm trying to say.
Saving the Universe...You didn't read the Dark Phoenix Saga? I didn't say he saved the universe personally, i'm saying he lead a team that did.
i did, but did you? he lead the team yes, but to do what? fight the shiar? jean was what saved the universe, not cykes team.
Fact of the matter is, Storm hasn't done jack for anyone but herself in a long time. That's why she wants to goto Africa the "country".
storm hasn't done anything for anyone? did you even read extreme x-men? my guess is you didn't considering you thought it was the worst comic ever. in extreme alone her team
1)Destroyed a mob, toppled a weapons and drug ring.
2)Saved a race of beings and stopped a war
3) planned an escape,destroyed a 100 mile long tower, and led her team to stop an interdimensional war.
4)led her team to freedom and stopped Bogan.
she stopped two wars, one being interdimensional, and saved an entire race of beings. that alone is more than what cyke has done in the past five or so years.
When you respond SF, I want you to address the issue of Paradise X which you largely ignored. It is comic book fact that the X-men would have disbanded without Cyclops keeping the school together. The only thing that saved them was the Phoenix going back in time and making Cyclops stay with the school and Emma.
paradise X is nothing but a diofferent time-line. cyke has left the x-men before and they got on just fine.
Many people might not have Cyclops as their favorite character, but almost everyone will agree that Cyclops is written with 5 times as much leadership capability as Storm. Tactically, Storm is not even on Cyclops chart. Storm is also written to be more emotional, and emotions often conflict with decisions
cyke nad storm have different ways of leading, both being very affective. yes, tactically cyke is above storm, we both agree on that. when deciding who is a better leader, i go by A)victories, B)ability to motivate and inspire your team, and C) their role on the mission. in the past 5 years, storm has had more victories, has always been able to motivate her team better. and it was storm who came up with the plans that saved an entire race, and stopped two wars.
What has Storm done in the last 5 years? Nothing.
have you even been reading my posts? obviously not. if your not going to read what i ave to say when i'm debating you, then why are you here?
Created dissent with the X-men and took a large faction of the members out on some useless trip through Europe where they didn't even finish what they sent out to accomplish.
they went to find destiy's diaries because they were to valuebal to fall into the wrong hands. halfway through the mission, they decided that the diaries were to powerful for anyone to have. good choice seeing as a few people who have read the diaries have gone mad from the information.
What has the X.S.E. done lately? Nothing.
yeah, pretty much nothing, you got that, but you must remember, the members of X.S.E are not together anymore, some are at thge mansion, and some on are uncanny, and some just all together quit the x-men. but none of this was storms fault, she can't control a persons actions.
Havok's team has been doing more than Storm's team.
recently? yes, we agree there, but the adjectivless comic moves at a faster pace that the uncanny comic.
Who's leading the X.S.E. now? In their most recent appearance in Uncanny it was said that Nightcrawler and Bishop are because Storm just gardens. She even left the team.
once again, you twist the story around. storm went to sort out her problems, and save countless lives with her powers. i'd like to see cyke accomplish this.
and with you bringing up astonishing, in recent issues, emma doesn't listen to his leadership and leaves her post exposing his problem, he came up w/ no plan to take down the mega sentinel, he came up w/ no plan to defeat Danger. the man had nothing. That's what his leadership boiled down to. But it was Storm's leadership which came up w/ a plan to save London. That was all her and her team. even in decimation, who predicted sentinals would come after mutants if the all met in one spot? storm, cyke led all the mutants to a trap. yes, some great leadership skills there.
also, it depends on the writer as to who is a better leader, cyke was better in the ninties, but now, he has nothing, and storm is the better leader.