How can a plane land at southpole's center right-side up instead of upside down?

I always wanted to know this, cause if you look at the globe from space it obviously a ball. And if you grab, say a basketball and lets assume it has it's own gravity that can hold , say a real small toy plane, the plane would remain grounded yes, but it would remain grounded upside down on the ball but on earth a real plane parked on the center of the south pole, or underneather the earth, would appear rightside up.

Just like with people. If they were in the south pole or directly underneath the planet; Earth's surface, they'd be walking right side up. But on the model, the toy plane would be upside down on the basketball.

I always wanted to know..

everything has a gravitational force...when you drop a ball to the ground...the earth acts on the ball, pulling it towards it...but the ball also pulls the earth towards it but its effect is so small that it is completely unnoticable...not to mention is most likely counteracted by something on the other side of the planet anyway

as for the upside down thing...technically there is no up and down...there is only a map representation that shows north and south

imagine you approached earth from space for the first time in the so called "upside down" position...any map you make of earth from that viewpoint would be the opposite of the way we represent it

Indeed Jade or (exactly the same as you) you beat me to it 🙂

The earth's gravity pulls us directly toward the earth's center. Because the earth is round, the earth's center is straight down from wherever you are. Straight down for you in New York or whatever in the US (Fist of the North Star) is at an angle to straight down for me in London, but both point to the center of the earth.

Indeed.

Your mistake is to say that it would be "grounded upside down on the ball."

No it wouldn't. It would be grounded the right way up on the ball- wheels touching the surface, just as it would anywhere.

You mean that you see it being upside down. But that's irrelevant, isn't it? Turn the ball the other way around and it would be fine. You only think it is upside down because you are relating it to Eartb's gravity, which is a big mistake when you are trying to simulate the Earth on a basketball.

There really is no upside down, just as in space in the shuttle there is no upside down.....

Ever wonder if people that live on the bottom half of the hemisphere position their earth globes upside down?... 😑

No, why would they?

Because they would view the Northern hemisphere as the upside down for them.

No they wouldn't. North is still North.

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
I always wanted to know this, cause if you look at the globe from space it obviously a ball. And if you grab, say a basketball and lets assume it has it's own gravity that can hold , say a real small toy plane, the plane would remain grounded yes, but it would remain grounded upside down on the ball but on earth a real plane parked on the center of the south pole, or underneather the earth, would appear rightside up.

Just like with people. If they were in the south pole or directly underneath the planet; Earth's surface, they'd be walking right side up. But on the model, the toy plane would be upside down on the basketball.

I always wanted to know..

This is the principal of gravity. The only reason it seems upside down is because the earth, in essence, is a line that appears straight but is actually cruved. You can also notice this through jet's that fly in the atmosphere. When you look up, it seems that they are falling down. Missiles work the same way. But to answer your question, the line around the world is an illusion. You break the illusion at a distance, like the plane flying down. And therefore you think that the plane is up-side down, but in fact it's right side up.

Originally posted by Ushgarak
No they wouldn't. North is still North.

The South Magnetic Pole is one of the two magnetic poles of the Earth's magnetic field. It lies near the Geographic South Pole, but its exact location is gradually shifting. The South Magnetic Pole is named after its proximity to the Geographic South Pole; in a strict magnetic sense, it is a north pole. The south pole of a magnet is attracted to the north poles of other magnets, hence the south pole of a freely suspended magnet (as in a compass) will point towards the Geomagnetic South Pole.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Pole

😑..was only curious

Sometimes I seriously wonder if a ban on certain people using computers would be a good thing. Seriously I do.

Scary mentality, or lack thereof, sometimes.

How many people on this forum believe that if you dug through the Earth you'd come out the otherside with your head touching the floor? I am now of the belief that someone must, surely.

-AC

Originally posted by debbiejo
The South Magnetic Pole is one of the two magnetic poles of the Earth's magnetic field. It lies near the Geographic South Pole, but its exact location is gradually shifting. The South Magnetic Pole is named after its proximity to the Geographic South Pole;[B] in a strict magnetic sense, it is a north pole. The south pole of a magnet is attracted to the north poles of other magnets, hence the south pole of a freely suspended magnet (as in a compass) will point towards the Geomagnetic South Pole.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Pole

😑..was only curious [/B]

in a magnetic sense perhaps...but the world uses standardised maps to determine north and south anyway...the only reason that we create the illusion of up and down in our minds is the fact that north is at the top of a map and south is at the bottom...

Originally posted by Alpha Centauri

How many people on this forum believe that if you dug through the Earth you'd come out the otherside with your head touching the floor?
-AC

How many times did you try before you gave up? 😄

See, if there really is no up or down, then it only makes one wonder how others view the world from the other advantage point....I
I know about maps

If I were you, I'd not try to make jokes considering you just said you believed certain people view hemispheres as upside down.

Really.

Right now I'd be seriously considering a healthy dose of, I dunno, reading. Or a book.

-AC

Originally posted by Ushgarak
Indeed.

Your mistake is to say that it would be "grounded upside down on the ball."

No it wouldn't. It would be grounded the right way up on the ball- wheels touching the surface, just as it would anywhere.

You mean that you see it being upside down. But that's irrelevant, isn't it? Turn the ball the other way around and it would be fine. You only think it is upside down because you are relating it to Eartb's gravity, which is a big mistake when you are trying to simulate the Earth on a basketball.

I still don't understand. And how would it be a mistake for me to say that I would, for myslef with my own eyes, see a small toy plane parked underneath a basketball,.. assuming that the Basketball had a gravitational pull and core.

You wrote: "It would be grounded the right way up on the ball- wheels touching the surface, just as it would anywhere." No it wouldn't. Not if it's up-side down. The wheels and plane would be grounded just as it would anywhere, yes, but it would stand in accodance to it's position on the ball.

Imagine being in space flying towards Earth, towards the under-side of the globe, then landing. You'd land right-side up but how can that be. The basketball sim contradicts this, it's not irrelevant to assimilate both the Earth and the ball in the same light. They're both round, both have the same gravity capacity but on one ball, if I landed underneath it, I would be upside down but on the other ball, I'd be right-side up?

Still don't get it.

hemispheres are upside down?

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
I still don't understand. And how would it be a mistake for me to say that I would, for myslef with my own eyes, see a small toy plane parked underneath a basketball,.. assuming that the Basketball had a gravitational pull and core.

You wrote: "It would be grounded the right way up on the ball- wheels touching the surface, just as it would anywhere." No it wouldn't. Not if it's up-side down. The wheels and plane would be grounded just as it would anywhere, yes, but it would stand in accodance to it's position on the ball.

Imagine being in space flying towards Earth, towards the under-side of the globe, then landing. You'd land right-side up but how can that be. The basketball sim contradicts this, it's not irrelevant to assimilate both the Earth and the ball in the same light. They're both round, both have the same gravity capacity but on one ball, if I landed underneath it, I would be upside down but on the other ball, I'd be right-side up?

Still don't get it.

But you just did. You answered your own question, it all in concordance with sight and nothing else. Hence it being an "illusion".

Just has to do with magnetic fields....the poles thing.

Originally posted by FistOfThe North
I still don't understand. And how would it be a mistake for me to say that I would, for myslef with my own eyes, see a small toy plane parked underneath a basketball,.. assuming that the Basketball had a gravitational pull and core.

You wrote: "It would be grounded the right way up on the ball- wheels touching the surface, just as it would anywhere." No it wouldn't. Not if it's up-side down. The wheels and plane would be grounded just as it would anywhere, yes, but it would stand in accodance to it's position on the ball.

Imagine being in space flying towards Earth, towards the under-side of the globe, then landing. You'd land right-side up but how can that be. The basketball sim contradicts this, it's not irrelevant to assimilate both the Earth and the ball in the same light. They're both round, both have the same gravity capacity but on one ball, if I landed underneath it, I would be upside down but on the other ball, I'd be right-side up?

Still don't get it.

imagine that toy stuck to that ball...but imagine approaching it and seeing it from another angle...it could appear stuck to the side or the top or wherever depending on what angle you approached it from

so up and down has nothing to do with where something is located...only to do with how you view it

Originally posted by AOR
But you just did. You answered your own question, it all in concordance with sight and nothing else. Hence it being an "illusion".

I did answer my own question? How? You referring to my "Things stand up in accordance to their positions." statement?

So by that "answer" then a plane would land upside down, underneath the globe, because of the accordance of it's planted position?

Weren't you opposed to that view, yet you're telling me I answered my own question that you now seem to agree with, just by simply saying that I answered my question..

lol, I just want a logical answer to my question cause I don't know the answer.