Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Not being angry, does not mean ignorance. Just because someone choses not to be angry, does not mean that they automatically lose the conciousness to what is happening to them.As for the example, take the monks (and great number of people) of Tibet. They are trained themselves not to be angry - that is their relgion. Are you saying that they are not aware that they are being opressed by Chinese?
Lack of anger is understanding of what is happening, and thus rational solution to getting out of it, by the means other than hate.
Anger produces hate, so techically my statement above about the hate was relevant.
I'm not saying that not being angry means ignorance.
So no, I'm not saying the contents of your second paragraph.
I'm also not saying that anger doesn't produce hate. It can do.
What I am saying is that there are several instances in which anger has been the propellant behind real change in society, thereby disproving the notion that it is never useful.
I don't suggest that there aren't other ways to react than getting angry, but it's a nonsense to imagine everyone does or can do that. I merely point out that in very real examples, anger has led to change.
Obviously, angry people can contribute a lot negatively to society, but that's not the fault of 'anger', it's the fault of people with poor mentalities.
Originally posted by lil bitchiness
Not being angry, does not mean ignorance. Just because someone choses not to be angry, does not mean that they automatically lose the conciousness to what is happening to them.As for the example, take the monks (and great number of people) of Tibet. They are trained themselves not to be angry - that is their relgion. Are you saying that they are not aware that they are being opressed by Chinese?
Lack of anger is understanding of what is happening, and thus rational solution to getting out of it, by the means other than hate.
Anger produces hate, so techically my statement above about the hate was relevant.
Anger doesn't produce hate, for definite. If I'm angry at my TV not working, I don't feel hatred for it.
Anger is an emotion, a reactive emotion. As Victor said, a propellant. It's lead to some of the greatest art ever, so how do you figure it's not productive?
-AC
I dont anticipate everyone (or even a great majority of people on this planet) not getting angry. To not get angry takes great discipline, which manny cannot and are not willing to practice.
From this perspective, then, getting angry to fight opression is the way out in certain places.
If everyone chose not to get angry (which is extreamly unlikely at any point in time) then there would not be such issue of opression or hate nor a need for hate.
Originally posted by lil bitchinessIf everyone chose not to get angry (which is extreamly unlikely at any point in time) then there would not be such issue of opression or hate nor a need for hate.
It's not really anger that leads to injustice though. The fact that no-one was angry doesn't mean people wouldn't take severe advantage of others.
All that'd happen is the disadvantaged would have less cause to do something about it.
Originally posted by lil bitchiness
When someone is angry, thats one time they don't think or act rationally. How exactly is that productive?
Sorry there Lil', but you're wrong on that one.
You are confusing anger with madness. One can bee very angry, but totally rational and posses all their faculties.
Originally posted by soleran30
Madness is a disease not an emotional state.
Debbiejo now I could be wrong here but ALOT of people get angry however its not the emotion that is bad its the expression of the emotion.
Honestly, I just don't get angry....It's just how a person looks at a situation then reacts to it...
Originally posted by debbiejo
Honestly, I just don't get angry....It's just how a person looks at a situation then reacts to it...
Thats why I said ALOT and not ALL. I cannot tell you what to feel or how to feel however that doesn't mean someone else cannot feel a specific way is all.
If you have gotten over anger still you are missing out 😈 Thats where all that Buddha and Tao and all that stuff comes into "play" you must seek enlightenment by understanding one can only understand what one has experienced haha
Originally posted by debbiejo
Then explain why some people never get angry?
Detachment from self. Emotional impotence. Labotomy. By the way, what does this question have to do with what I said?
Originally posted by soleran30
Madness is a disease not an emotional state.Rage is an emotional response that is explossive without thought.
Debbiejo now I could be wrong here but ALOT of people get angry however its not the emotion that is bad its the expression of the emotion.
Thanx for calling me on that, yes I should have used rage as an example and not madness.
Originally posted by KharmaDog
Sorry there Lil', but you're wrong on that one.You are confusing anger with madness. One can bee very angry, but totally rational and posses all their faculties.
Originally posted by debbiejo
Then explain why some people never get angry?
Not so much a non sequitur as non sense.
Originally posted by Wonderer
I see so many angry and aggressive people in the forums of KMC. The world is worse off because of such people in society.I don't want to judge you angry folk, but simply point out the fact that anger and aggression does not promote your own wellbeing as an individual, nor does it promote the wellbeing of society.
Just try for one day in your life to only think positive thoughts, to only utter good words, not to judge other opinions than your own as wrong, to send out vibrations of kindness, respect and love, rather than hatred and fear.
Remember, to be angry is like holding on to a hot coal in your bare hands: you are the one getting burned.
Happiness and wellness to everyone.
[cartman voice] Hippies... no... mommy not damn hippies!![/cartman voice] 😛
But I don't agree, it's anger what makes the world change for good or worse.
Originally posted by KharmaDogHAHA...
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At one time I used to have very much repressed anger, but now have none.....It's a looking at things differently and using some wisdom thing...you learn to look beyond someones actions, words, and see something deeper......Once a person can do this, then anger transforms into compassion.. 🙂
Originally posted by debbiejo
HAHA...At one time I used to have very much repressed anger, but now have none.....It's a looking at things differently and using some wisdom thing...you learn to look beyond someones actions, words, and see something deeper......Once a person can do this, then anger transforms into compassion.. 🙂
Indeed - do you meditate Bebbie? 🙂