Hmm... on the actual topic... if an ordinary male gorilla's skull is 1-2 inches thick and overlayed with muscle, skin and hair, and Godzilla is proportionally 9-10x larger... that would equate to a skull around 13-15 inches thick overlayed with 9-10x thicker muscle, skin, hair. Wolverine's claws, although they've been portrayed at various sizes, are meant to be a foot long.
first pic has to do with the psionic failsafes that apocalypse built into the armor.
the round orb looking parts of the armor emit these as well as energy blasts.
this however has no baring on his physical durability... thus there is no reason to post this pic in an attempt to discredit it as they are of not the same content.
second pic.. again.. same damned thing, telepathic failsafes that render a psychic/psionic backlash, not useful for a debate vs. his physical durability.
3rd pic.. consistent... cyclops hit him with the blasts in a training session.. nothing happened
he did it again in the savage land, wolverine got up singed but fine.
he did it again when wolverine had to fight his brainwashed allies, nothing.
he did it again when wolverine was brainwashed... nadda..
he did it again in x-men 92... zip...
there's a reason AOA and ultimates are the only examples of cycs doing major damage to him...
the only PIS there was the fact that wolverine wasn't blown back.. something comparible to him not flying miles from a brick hit.. which strangely enough is consistent for wolverine to do as well...
in short you've not proved ONE DAMN THING about wolverine's durability that we didn't already know before. that sucks...
however going by your logic.. since there is no explaination for wolverine to not be sent flying for miles on end by a brick hit and it's never mentioned upon we should assume that he has manipulation over inertia and gravitational forces... I mean you did make a similar assumtion for his feats as death did you not?assuming he has powers he's never been mentioned to have is ridiculous...
Originally posted by jinzin
first pic has to do with the psionic failsafes that apocalypse built into the armor.the round orb looking parts of the armor emit these as well as energy blasts.
this however has no baring on his physical durability... thus there is no reason to post this pic in an attempt to discredit it as they are of not the same content.
second pic.. again.. same damned thing, telepathic failsafes that render a psychic/psionic backlash, not useful for a debate vs. his physical durability.
3rd pic.. consistent... cyclops hit him with the blasts in a training session.. nothing happened
he did it again in the savage land, wolverine got up singed but fine.
he did it again when wolverine had to fight his brainwashed allies, nothing.
he did it again when wolverine was brainwashed... nadda..
he did it again in x-men 92... zip...
there's a reason AOA and ultimates are the only examples of cycs doing major damage to him...
the only PIS there was the fact that wolverine was blown back.. something comparible to him not flying miles from a brick hit.. which strangely enough is consistent for wolverine to do...
in short you've not proved ONE DAMN THING about wolverine's durability that we didn't already know before. that sucks...
Ah. So you think that Wolverine can survive a full blast from Cyclops. Once again Wolverine shows his strange gravity-defying powers...
This orb thing was said where? Telekinetic bolts still effect you physically. Jean Grey was giving everything she got. Death Wolverine was unphased. Not in durability level of normal Wolverine, I think. And see what Jean Grey was saying? That only Cable and X-Man were strong enough to stop him? Would the same be with result of normal Wolverine?
Originally posted by DarkCrawlerUnless it absorbed all effects of the enrgy/psionic attacks. hmm . . .
Ah. So you think that Wolverine can survive a full blast from Cyclops. Once again Wolverine shows his strange gravity-defying powers...This orb thing was said where? Telekinetic bolts still effect you physically. Jean Grey was giving everything she got. Death Wolverine was unphased. Not in durability level of normal Wolverine, I think. And see what Jean Grey was saying? That only Cable and X-Man were strong enough to stop him? Would the same be with result of normal Wolverine?
Originally posted by DarkCrawler
The writer still made him be a complete idiot...he has not had his arrogant rages for years. I mean...standing with uncertain look on your face, with your fists being put up in front of you while a guy who can shred through steel like it's butter lunges at you? No...I don't think that's Namor. He would have hit him while he was lunging at him, or dodged him. And a simple stab like that would not have put him down anyway...he was able to fight while he had a gaping hole on his stomach...made by Ebony Blade..withstand a heat that was nearly equivalent to sun...and then one stab from Wolverine puts him down? Yes...that's really Avenging Son for you. 🙄Bad writing.
uncertain look?
ummm no.. namor looks pissed off and detirmined the entire team.. even after he goes down, he's still grimacing at us agent about fighting wolverine...
namors still arrogant.. I don't see how you came to the conclusion that he isn't.
and namor not being a complete coward while being arrogant IS in character.. his pride led to his downfall in their fight...
every character has their high end and low end showings for damage soak.. but if we used the high end ones for wolverine all the time NOBODY could put him down...
wolverine didn't get one hit. he got in 1 slash one hit and one gut... kinda hard for a landbased namor to soak that up... is it not?
Originally posted by Creshosk
Unless it absorbed all effects of the enrgy/psionic attacks. hmm . . .
xactly....
it's a failsafe made specifically for telepathic attacks...
that's also why jean couldn't read his mind..
this however has nothing to do with what he can take physically... and again.. the armor wasn't covering his head which was what hulk hit...
common crawler, you don't have to take my word for it, but damn logic alone can dictate that armor wasn't over wolverine's head in that fight...
If Kong tries to chew on Wolverine, he'll just break his teeth on Logan's bones.
If he picks Wolverine up, Wolverine could very easily tear through Kong's hand (Wolverine's cut cleanly through steel bulkheads tougher than Kong's wrist or palms.)
Wolverine's speed and agility are more animalistic than human. He'd leap onto Kong's chest before the big ape could swat at him, rip into Kong's throat and finish the fight in minutes.
Originally posted by jinzin
uncertain look?
ummm no.. namor looks pissed off and detirmined the entire team.. even after he goes down, he's still grimacing at us agent about fighting wolverine...namors still arrogant.. I don't see how you came to the conclusion that he isn't.
and namor not being a complete coward while being arrogant IS in character.. his pride led to his downfall in their fight...
every character has their high end and low end showings for damage soak.. but if we used the high end ones for wolverine all the time NOBODY could put him down...
wolverine didn't get one hit. he got in 1 slash one hit and one gut... kinda hard for a landbased namor to soak that up... is it not?
Check the pic. It looks uncertain, especially the posture he is standing.
And like I said, he is arrogant. But not stupid. If he dodges stuff in nearly every fight he is, why wouldn't he do the same with Wolverine?
If he is an arrogant ass, why didn't he let Warmachine just shoot at him with the machine gun:
http://img438.imageshack.us/my.php?image=warnamor48hw.gif
http://img438.imageshack.us/my.php?image=warnamor55gs.gif
Why didn't he just let Captain America bump from him:
http://img306.imageshack.us/my.php?image=captnamor26el.gif
Why didn't he decide to do the same with Spider-Man?
http://putfile.com/pic.php?pic=11/30708285261.gif&s=x11
Or Abomination?
http://img425.imageshack.us/img425/7272/namorfeat691ix.gif
What about Sunfire:
http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/4434/namorfeat211qk.gif
Why didn't he just let the sonic waves hit him?
http://img388.imageshack.us/img388/3664/namorfeat31lb.gif
Perhaps it would just have been better if the missiles had hit him?
http://img343.imageshack.us/img343/3176/namorefeat513dy.gif
If he only had done the same with Iron Man...oh wait, he did (not my scan):
http://img284.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ironmanv1054184ru.jpg
It's a shame that Namor also dodged Hulk:
http://img373.imageshack.us/img373/7403/namorspeedfeats4wj.gif
http://img400.imageshack.us/img400/8922/namorspeedfeat27uj.gif
So. Namor can dodge things. Why didn't he do the same with Wolverine? I have no friggin idea.
Originally posted by jinzin
xactly....it's a failsafe made specifically for telepathic attacks...
that's also why jean couldn't read his mind..
this however has nothing to do with what he can take physically... and again.. the armor wasn't covering his head which was what hulk hit...
common crawler, you don't have to take my word for it, but damn logic alone can dictate that armor wasn't over wolverine's head in that fight...
But how do you think he broke that door? He wasn't making lot of slices at it, except at the beginning. The blow that knocked Nate out was clearly an impact.
But hey, you said that Death Wolverine is the same as Normal Wolverine...and maybe he is.
I still don't think Wolverine can take Cyclops's blasts without any damage, though. Especially the ones shown in Astonishing.
<<If Kong tries to chew on Wolverine, he'll just break his teeth on Logan's bones.
If he picks Wolverine up, Wolverine could very easily tear through Kong's hand (Wolverine's cut cleanly through steel bulkheads tougher than Kong's wrist or palms.)
Wolverine's speed and agility are more animalistic than human. He'd leap onto Kong's chest before the big ape could swat at him, rip into Kong's throat and finish the fight in minutes.>>
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basically exactly what i said. thought i was going crazy there for a minute. i agree -- kk reaches for him logan dodges or just slices his hand to crap. he grabs him logan slices his fingers. logan probably can reach the ape's chest and start hacking away. depending on where the fight is it may or may not be possible for kk to grab him and chuck him into the ocean. what if wolvie simply gets behind the furball and hacks away his achilles' tendons? ape is screwed.
as unbelieveable as it sounds (MORE unbelieveable because i think only me and piedmon see ot believe it!!!) i think wolvie takes this . . .
groan . . . the admission leaves me with a splitting headache.
Originally posted by DarkCrawlerDid Nate remember to compentsate for the loss of material in the door? Cause if he had pushed with all his might wouldn't he have blasted right through the door? And if the orb was absorbing ambient psionic energy would that have an effect on nate trying to TK the door shut?
But how do you think he broke that door? He wasn't making lot of slices at it, except at the beginning. The blow that knocked Nate out was clearly an impact.But hey, you said that Death Wolverine is the same as Normal Wolverine...and maybe he is.
I still don't think Wolverine can take Cyclops's blasts without any damage, though. Especially the ones shown in Astonishing.
Originally posted by Creshosk
Did Nate remember to compentsate for the loss of material in the door? Cause if he had pushed with all his might wouldn't he have blasted right through the door? And if the orb was absorbing ambient psionic energy would that have an effect on nate trying to TK the door shut?
I have no idea...none of those things were stated at the comic.
Originally posted by Piedmon😆
Next up.... Wolverine vs a Shih Tzu puppy, and following that, the grudge match against a dandy-lion field...
i can't wait!! those damn sh!t-zoos can be vicious little buggers . . .
btw, you ever get the feeling we're the only ones still on topic . . .? what do you think of the side topic, wolvie v namor since it is clear you and i have brought the true topic of this thread to a definitive cloase . . .?
Originally posted by leonidas
😆i can't wait!! those damn sh!t-zoos can be vicious little buggers . . .
btw, you ever get the feeling we're the only ones still on topic . . .? what do you think of the side topic, wolvie v namor since it is clear you and i have brought the true topic of this thread to a definitive cloase . . .?
😂
good job guys..
<<Meh... Mothra, Rodan, Battra, MechaGodzilla would all kill him.>>
mothra? what's mothra gonna do??
rodan would CERTAINLY kill him. who's battra?
mechagodzilla . . . now THERE'S a beast. is there something BEYOND killing? hheheh.
and the only reason i see wolvie winning is because kk can be sliced open so easily and has only physical attacks to use against him. wolverine has beaten bigger AND stronger.
my headache is NOT getting better . . . but the vision of mechagodzilla v wolvie is certainly helping . . .
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