Originally posted by who?-kid
Juggernaut. Firelord. Hulk. Morlun.Two with his brains, two with his fists.
Knocked out Hulk with his fists?
I think that Juggernaut was lured into cement.
He defeated Morlun by using radiation against him.
Firelord fell to combination of PIS and being smashed through tons of stuff before fighting Spider-Man.
What happened to Hulk?
Originally posted by DarkCrawler
No CIS. Distractions won't work.
It's not easy to concentrate on your opponent when he's bouncing around you like crazy. And when you have to watch your back for that hairy clawed dude...Namor could dodge Spider-Man's web and Wolverine's stabs with ease.
Again, based on what ? Dodging machine gun isn't that impressive, that's one of the first things a hero has to learn."Slower?
Yes, slower. Still damn fast, but not just as fast as SM. The traveling speed of Namor is of course much more impressive, but I am talking about reaction time and reflexes. I have yet to seen an sufficient proof to see that Spider-Man is faster...
I have yet to seen an sufficient proof to see that Namor is faster...Namor is [b]literally
thousands of times stronger then both Spider-Man and Wolverine compared. One hit from him, and Spidey is out from count.[/B]
That goes for 80 % of the SM foes... Knocked out Hulk with his fists?
Yes with his fists and the aid of a cement truck lol.
And before you shout PIS PIS, I know it was not the best writing ever. I may be a SM fan(boy), but I know his limits.
But when I look around here, everybody uses the most stupid PIS examples to defend their favorite characters, so I think I can do the same. Firelord fell to combination of PIS and being smashed through tons of stuff before fighting Spider-Man.
No. There is not ONE piece of evidence that Firelord was even a little bit hurt by the explosion.
Originally posted by who?-kid
Why wouldn't distractions work ? Does Namor also have an "anti distraction field ?"
No...but by the forum standards you can't just say that Namor will put all his concentration to Spider-Man and leave Wolverine an open field. He's not dumb.
Originally posted by who?-kid
It's not easy to concentrate on your opponent when he's bouncing around you like crazy. And when you have to watch your back for that hairy clawed dude...
I was not aware that Spider-Man can move around with Mach Speeds...especially when Namor can dodge 90% of hits of Spider-Man. The hairy clawed dude has been smashed to the full adamantium cage fifteen seconds ago.
Originally posted by who?-kid
Again, based on what ? Dodging machine gun isn't that impressive, that's one of the first things a hero has to learn.
It's impressive when that said machine gun fire is faster then any of the attacks your enemies can make...
Originally posted by who?-kid
Yes, slower. Still damn fast, but not just as fast as SM. The traveling speed of Namor is of course much more impressive, but I am talking about reaction time and reflexes.
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Originally posted by who?-kid
I have yet to seen an sufficient proof to see that Namor is faster...
Check above...
Originally posted by who?-kid
That goes for 80 % of the SM foes...
Were they also: As fast or faster then Spider-Man, three times as experienced as he is, miles better hand to hand fighters, more durable then Spider-Man can imagine, and had other nifty powers, like usage of electricity with them?
Originally posted by who?-kid
Yes with his fists and the aid of a cement truck lol.And before you shout PIS PIS, I know it was not the best writing ever. I may be a SM fan(boy), but I know his limits.
Namor defeated Hulk with one punch. He hit him so hard that he reverted back to Bruce Banner. It kind of tops everything Spider-Man is available of doing...
Originally posted by who?-kid
But when I look around here, everybody uses the most stupid PIS examples to defend their favorite characters, so I think I can do the same.
Well, unless you can show me that his punches cripple someone like Namor, then any of those examples won't work.
Originally posted by who?-kid
No. There is not ONE piece of evidence that Firelord was even a little bit hurt by the explosion.
And I suppose this is no PIS to you:
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Class 10 character beating an Herald with his fists. On the same issues, Firelord was able to react for meteors that were moving with speeds well beyond Spider-Man's.
In fact, Namor is able to do the same too...😖hifty:
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Originally posted by DarkCrawlerKnowing languages is an indicator of inteligence?
Dumb? http://img106.imageshack.us/img106/8459/namorfeat490wx.gif
Wolverine knows at least 17. .
Is this a verbal fight?
Originally posted by DarkCrawlerDunno, do know that he pretty much picks up languges rather well. two of those he didn't know before he joined the X-men, and he learned them out in the field intereacting with people that do know it.
Knowing ten languages when he is about ten himself, is an indicator of intelligence of some sort.How many did Wolverine know at the age of ten?
Originally posted by Creshosk
Dunno, do know that he pretty much picks up languges rather well. two of those he didn't know before he joined the X-men, and he learned them out in the field intereacting with people that do know it.
well in origin he just looked like a little sissy kid. (although Origin itself was a brilliant storyline!!)
Originally posted by DarkCrawler
No...but by the forum standards you can't just say that Namor will put all his concentration to Spider-Man and leave Wolverine an open field. He's not dumb.
You make it seem like it's almost impossible to distract the submariner.
especially when Namor can dodge 90% of hits of Spider-Man.
The hairy clawed dude has been smashed to the full adamantium cage fifteen seconds ago.
It's impressive when that said machine gun fire is faster then any of the attacks your enemies can make...
And Namor is no way as fast as multiple laser attacks.
Were they also: As fast or faster then Spider-Man, three times as experienced as he is, miles better hand to hand fighters, more durable then Spider-Man can imagine, and had other nifty powers, like usage of electricity with them?
Three times as experienced ? You actually calculated his experience ? I know he is much older than Spider-Man, but come on, both have TONS of experience. Spider-Man has appeared (and fought) in many many more comics than Namor ever will.
Namor defeated Hulk with one punch. He hit him so hard that he reverted back to Bruce Banner.
Well, unless you can show me that his punches cripple someone like Namor, then any of those examples won't work.
On the same issues, Firelord was able to react for meteors that were moving with speeds well beyond Spider-Man's.
Originally posted by who?-kidNot saying that. But he can be distracted. Period.
You make it seem like it's almost impossible to distract the submariner.
No it's not. But he won't be stupid enough to leave his back open for attack.
Originally posted by who?-kid
Speculation.[/B]
Not really. You need to watch the pics I post, that is why I do so.
Originally posted by who?-kid
And came back for more 13 seconds ago.
No...he was knocked out. Removed from the fight.
Originally posted by who?-kid
That's flawed logic. Spider-Man dodges multiple laser attacks with ease, but that doesn't make him faster than the speed of light. And Namor is no way as fast as multiple laser attacks.
You wanted me to show you the pictures of Namor having exceptional reflexes. I showed them.
Originally posted by who?-kid
Wowowowow settle down.
Answer my question.
Originally posted by who?-kid
Three times as experienced ? You actually calculated his experience ? I know he is much older than Spider-Man, but come on, both have TONS of experience. Spider-Man has appeared (and fought) in many many more comics than Namor ever will.
Then tell me. Which one of them is the first character of Marvel Comics? Which one is a hundred years old?
Namor is more experienced. His lifespan exceeds Spider-Man's with ease, and he has fought as many heroes then Spider-Man has. And actually beaten more of them. Fought in WWII before Spider-man's parents were even born, and Aunt May was something like 10.
Namor is more experienced then Spider-man will ever be.
Originally posted by who?-kid
And I suppose this is no PIS to you.
Not really, he has the sufficient strenght to do that. Unlike Spider-man has.
Originally posted by who?-kid
Well, since Spider-Mans punches have hurt Hulk and Firelord, I see no reason to assume they wouldn't have any effect on Namor.
The would have effect. Not much. One punch from Namor could end Spider-Man's life.
Originally posted by DarkCrawlerI feel it when a seven year old kid punches me. Doesn't mean that I couldn't school his ass in a fight.
Namor's punches >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Spider-Man's punches. [
Originally posted by who?-kid
He saw them coming and destroyed them. Big deal for a (second rate) herald.
Second rate herald who can fight Silver Surfer with good results...
Originally posted by Scoobless
now if he flies straight into an adamantium cage rather than a steel smoke stack he could end up with a serious headache ✅
Together with Wolverine, when they use their brains and work like a team, they can certainly take Namor. Not easily, but far from being impossible.
After serious contemplation...I now think that Spiderman and Wolverine can take this.
And by Spiderman and Wolverine, I pretty much just mean Spiderman. Wolverine is cannon fodder. I guess Spidey could throw him, or use him as a bat or something.
I think Spidey does have what it takes to bring Namor down. And...I guess with the "help" of Wolverine, those chances do increase indeed. Especially since when Spidey really doesn't hold back, his strength exceeds even his believed limitations.
And I also agree with who?-kid. Former herald of Galactus or not, Spidey took it to Firelord. Spidey's rage increased as well, which we've all seen is almost directly proportional to his strength and speed. He layed dozens of powerful punches all over Firelord, while avoiding everything Firelord tried to throw at him. It's understandable that he was knocked out.
My new vote, Spidey and Wolverine 6.5/10.
Ok now I have some questions.
Didnt Spidey beat Firelord with the symbiote? Which makes all his attributes better? Someone correct me if im wrong.
Secondly, Metalmanx bring up Spiderman being raged helped. Well Namor enraged has helped him focus as well in the past. Also while enraged, he was able to double and re-double his strength. Do you honestly think spiderman can ko Namor with punches? Ok he beat Firelord. How durable is he? And isnt it in the forum rules not to bring that battle up?
Are we now saying that because A beat B, that means that A can beat C as well.
Cause it seems that because Spidey beat Firelord, then he can beat Namor.
Cause if thats the case, Namor beat Hulk, stalemated Surfer who is said to be > Firelord, stalemated Thor and Hercules, so he can beat Spidey and Wolverine. Im just going by others logic.
