Superman Prime vs. A Celestial (Your Pick)

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Originally posted by eleveninches
No way. do you realise how powerful superman prime is?

Cube beings control and alter reality on at LEAST a planetary scale. (The beyonder was 1/2 a cube being, for reference.)

Celestials are FAR, FAR more powerful than a cube being.

They're still below galactus tho. (galactus absorbed and killed the renegade/dreaming celestial)

Celestial wins

Any of the Celestials would squash any version of Superman.

Originally posted by eleveninches
No way. do you realise how powerful superman prime is?

I realise that Prime needed help resurrecting the dead. And his enemy was Solaris, a living sun.

Do you realise that Prime might not even be Skyfather level? And that Skyfathers are below Cube Beings, who are below Celestials?

Originally posted by Beyonder
I realise that Prime needed help resurrecting the dead. And his enemy was Solaris, a living sun.

Do you realise that Prime might not even be Skyfather level? And that Skyfathers are below Cube Beings, who are below Celestials?

Nowhere in the storyline does it say that Prime needed help with anything. He doesn't even keep the last GL ring.

Solaris having a hate for Superman means nothing towards gauging Primes power levels. Luthor is currently Supermans enemy, doesnt mean he can't crush him easily.

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Nowhere in the storyline does it say that Prime needed help with anything. He doesn't even keep the last GL ring.

Ressurecting his wife. Using the GL ring to beat Solaris, a weapon Solaris had not encountered before.


Solaris having a hate for Superman means nothing towards gauging Primes power levels. Luthor is currently Supermans enemy, doesnt mean he can't crush him easily. [/B]

Solaris was owning the heck out the Supes dying nasty and Kryptonite weapon against Prime. He needed the GL ring to beat Solaris.

Originally posted by Beyonder
Ressurecting his wife. Using the GL ring to beat Solaris, a weapon Solaris had not encountered before.

Solaris was owning the heck out the Supes dying nasty and Kryptonite weapon against Prime. He needed the GL ring to beat Solaris.

Wrong. Nowhere did it say that he needed anything to defeat him, and he doesnt even keep the ring.

If you have proof that he needed anything, show it.

Lets just say that Prime can't beat any Celestial, and no Celestial(except Exitar or TOAA) can't beat Prime. We don't know enough about his powers to gauge properly.

Galactus is not above any Celestial Exitar would beat him like a Mule.

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
[B]Wrong. Nowhere did it say that he needed anything to defeat him, and he doesnt even keep the ring.

And nowhere did it show him beating Solaris without a GL ring.

Exitar, Dreaming Celestial, One Above All (celestial), Arishem >> superman prime

Originally posted by UniOmni
Lets just say that Prime can't beat any Celestial, and no Celestial(except Exitar or TOAA) can't beat Prime. We don't know enough about his powers to gauge properly.
There we go.

Originally posted by golem370
Galactus is not above any Celestial Exitar would beat him like a Mule.

This thread isn't about that but I gotta disagree. Galactus is above Celestials.

Originally posted by Darth_Erebus
This thread isn't about that but I gotta disagree. Galactus is above Celestials.
In purpose and imporance and at full power maybe, but in normal showings he gets foiled by heros often enough. That's probably what they were judging by.

Originally posted by Beyonder
And nowhere did it show him beating Solaris without a GL ring.

Which means what exactly? Nothing.
1 move crush, drops the ring. If he needed it, he would have kept it.

Like many have said, no real way to judge this.
If Prime really is more powerful than a full blooded imp supes, then he crushes any celestial. Period.
The world will never know.

Avalone, when was it stated that Prime was more powerful than a full blooded imp?? Superman 1 Million isn't a full blooded imp, remember?
He is at the end of a line of Superman descendents. Through time and Bloodline dilution, he may not compare to any full imp like say Mxy. Gotta remember that the farther one gets from the original primal source, the weaker the line grows. I don't buy that Prime is stronger than any imp, seeing as how Mxy is beyond death, and thats something Superman never conquered. He may outsmart Mxy(though i believe thats just so Mxy can have fun), but i doubt any version is more high powered than him.

They said Prime was the most powerful of his dynasty which included a full blooded Imp. That's the one who helped him recreate Lois. 1 Million is half imp.

Then that makes no sense. Once i marry a white woman(i'm black), nobody from the resulting dynasty can be considered full anything, if they don't marry into the family. See my point? Its genetically impossible. A full blooded imp cannot claim blood ties with Superman. And if you disagree, please explain your reasoning.

He or she doesn't carry the bloodline. He's an imp who took on the Superman title. At least this is the way I took it.

Until they clarify whether they're an imp who took on the mantle of Superman, or is of the bloodline, i won't believe that Superman Prime is more powerful than any imp. Sorry. Too much of those comics were hyperbole.