Originally posted by UniOmni
Avalone, when was it stated that Prime was more powerful than a full blooded imp?? Superman 1 Million isn't a full blooded imp, remember?
He is at the end of a line of Superman descendents. Through time and Bloodline dilution, he may not compare to any full imp like say Mxy. Gotta remember that the farther one gets from the original primal source, the weaker the line grows. I don't buy that Prime is stronger than any imp, seeing as how Mxy is beyond death, and thats something Superman never conquered. He may outsmart Mxy(though i believe thats just so Mxy can have fun), but i doubt any version is more high powered than him.
I'm not talking about Superman 1M, I'm talking about LZYXM LTPKZ which is a 5th dimension Superman. 2 completely separate characters. Prime is said to be by far the most powerful of the whole dynasty.
Good bio on 1m though, I'm sure that will be handy to others.
Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
I'm not talking about Superman 1M, I'm talking about LZYXM LTPKZ which is a 5th dimension Superman. 2 completely separate characters. Prime is said to be by far the most powerful of the whole dynasty.Good bio on 1m though, I'm sure that will be handy to others.
If he isn't related to Prime by blood, then by the definition of dynasty, he isn't included. A dynasty is connected by blood. No full blooded imp can claim relation to Superman. Like i said, DC 1 Million was too much confusion and hyperbole. How can any being from this dimension be more powerful than anybody from the 5th d, who can control anything in this universe on a whim?? Like i said, hyperbole. Just like Superman saying that MM is more powerful than him. DC makes its rules, then disregards them. Unless you think Prime = galactus.
And newayz, the thread is about Prime vs. Celestials. And i put celestials = Imps.
Originally posted by UniOmni
If he isn't related to Prime by blood, then by the definition of dynasty, he isn't included. A dynasty is connected by blood. No full blooded imp can claim relation to Superman. Like i said, DC 1 Million was too much confusion and hyperbole. How can any being from this dimension be more powerful than anybody from the 5th d, who can control anything in this universe on a whim?? Like i said, hyperbole. Just like Superman saying that MM is more powerful than him. DC makes its rules, then disregards them. Unless you think Prime = galactus.
And newayz, the thread is about Prime vs. Celestials. And i put celestials = Imps.
All very good reasons, but the 5th dimension doesnt follow our 3rd dimensional rules. It is still stated that the 5th dimensional imp is in the dynasty, and that prime is the most powerful. So it should be assumed that he is.
Hyperbole? Maybe...but in comics most things are.
Originally posted by UniOmni
Until they clarify whether they're an imp who took on the mantle of Superman, or is of the bloodline, i won't believe that Superman Prime is more powerful than any imp. Sorry. Too much of those comics were hyperbole.
Seeing as they all draw power from him, its quite feasible. And the fact that it was stated on panel doesnt hurt either. 🙂
Originally posted by UniOmni
If he isn't related to Prime by blood, then by the definition of dynasty, he isn't included. A dynasty is connected by blood. No full blooded imp can claim relation to Superman. Like i said, DC 1 Million was too much confusion and hyperbole. How can any being from this dimension be more powerful than anybody from the 5th d, who can control anything in this universe on a whim?? Like i said, hyperbole. Just like Superman saying that MM is more powerful than him. DC makes its rules, then disregards them. Unless you think Prime = galactus.
And newayz, the thread is about Prime vs. Celestials. And i put celestials = Imps.
Unless a superman married an imp, then thier child married an imp, and then every member of that line married ONLY imps until superman-prime got out of the sun. That would make him as good as full blooded imp. The kryptonian blood would be mnonexistant.
Originally posted by Sirius77because we are taking a character with realtively speaking limited abilities and sticking him up against a being with vast enough powers to rival a well fed galactus
Its funny how people see superman and celestial in the same sentence and dont even take into account that he has no feats and automatically say that he gets pwned.
Originally posted by lando005
because we are taking a character with realtively speaking limited abilities and sticking him up against a being with vast enough powers to rival a well fed galactus
A limited number of feats? We havent seen him do anything, so how can so be so presumptuous as to even make a conclusion?
I said that IF in fact superman-prime did have the power of half an imp, that would be enough to beat a celestial. I never claimed that he did. I only implied that he MIGHT. I have not made a conclusion because I dont have enough information yet to do so. Earlier I thought that we were talking about countdown superman-prime.
Originally posted by Sirius77what are you talking about i didn't say anything about feats
A limited number of feats? We havent seen him do anything, so how can so be so presumptuous as to even make a conclusion?I said that IF in fact superman-prime did have the power of half an imp, that would be enough to beat a celestial. I never claimed that he did. I only implied that he MIGHT. I have not made a conclusion because I dont have enough information yet to do so. Earlier I thought that we were talking about countdown superman-prime.