Prove to me that 2+2 does not = 4

Originally posted by whobdamandog
All Buddhists are Relativists..but not all Relativists are Buddhists.

You all ascribe to the belief "Everyone has there own truth--everything is shades of gray" speel..a fundemental principle of Relativism.

Sense you know so much about Buddhism, please explain to me the ten factors of life and how they relate to Relativism.

😆 😆 😐

Oh wait, there's nothing remotely funny on the prior page.

Add 2 + 2 measures of some radioactive minerals, and the result can be a whole lot more than 4.

Originally posted by whobdamandog
No..religion is only going the way of the dinosaur..the only truth..is that 25 years of no collage begins to take a toll on one's English abilities. No offense was taken by your post. However, offense is a relative concept..seeing how defense can be used in a football, soccer, and other sports to perceive the objective truth of one's subjective actions. If we go to the collage, then the truth will be known through the falsehoods of our illusions.

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offesnsive isn't a relative concept.

Ignorance is always going to be offensive.

"The way of the dinosaur"? I think it's clear that you don't have the right to use such terminology. Especially, when you think they were created by god to throw off scientists.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
😆 😆 😐

Oh wait, there's nothing remotely funny on the prior page.

You must of missed the part where everyone is arguing why 2+2 not = 4.

I find that argument unto itself.. rather hilarious.😆 😆

Why do people attatch numbers to things?
They are just an illusion to give more of an understanding to this delusion you are in, you need things to explain just so you can feel that this is actually real..
It depends on how you see things, but then again you couldn't because all of this is my warped imagination..

A self-centered and disturbing view on the world, enjoy 😄

Originally posted by _Sanctuary_
Why do people attatch numbers to things?
They are just an illusion to give more of an understanding to this delusion you are in, you need things to explain just so you can feel that this is actually real..
It depends on how you see things, but then again you couldn't because all of this is my warped imagination..

A self-centered and disturbing view on the world, enjoy 😄

So in other words..you're crazy. 😆

2+2 does only = 4 if you accept the 8 basic axioms of addition, and subtraction as true. Those axioms define the concept of adding a number to another... addition, and subtraction need to be accepted as true.

Well, if we are speaking about paradoxes.. maybe it would be interesting to know that mathematics proved itself contradictory using its own logic. It is called Godel´s imcompleteness theorem

Originally posted by whobdamandog
So in other words..you're crazy. 😆

You have no right to call other people crazy.

Go play with your Star Wars toys. 😆

Also, answer my question.

Originally posted by whobdamandog
So in other words..you're crazy. 😆

2+2=4 because I allow it to equal 4, if I wished it to equal 3 you'd ask the same question.. 😄

Originally posted by _Sanctuary_
You only think I'm crazy because my mind subconsciously made that decision for you, you are only a figment of my imagination 😐

2+2=4 because I allow it to equal 4, if I wished it to equal 3 you'd ask the same question.. 😄

Hay _Sanctuary_ I can't defend you if you say things like that. 😆

1/3 = 0.3333333333333333- onwards to infinite decimal places
3/3 = 1
2(3/3) = 2
So:
0.9999999999999 to infinite decimal places = 1
3.9999999999999 to infinite decimal places decrement 4 = 4

So abstract numbers that don't exist are altered by people to become understandable, as are abstract theories.

1/3 = 0.33333333...
2/3 = 0.66666666...

4 = 3 + 1/3 + 2/3 = 3 + 0.3333333... + 0.6666666... = 3.99999999...

or just 4 = 3.9999999.....

Well it depends on how you make "2". You could use 2(3/3) or you could use 1 + 3/3

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I am not a Relativist; you haven't been reading my posts. I do believe there is an absolute truth, but I also believe that neither you nor I know what it is, or will ever know.

There is an absolute truth of life: The purpose of living is for each human being to become awakened and enlightened to the absolute truth, but what is in fact subjective and relative though, are the ways or paths to enlightenment/absolute truth (there are as many ways to enlightenment as there are people in existence - the Buddha once addressed a crowd of 84,000 people and told them there are 84,000 ways of realising truth)and to realise the absolute truth (to see things as they really are - without illusion and appearance).

So, in short, truth is absolute, but the ways of realising it is relative and subjective.

Originally posted by Wonderer
...but what is in fact subjective and relative though, are the ways or paths to enlightenment/absolute truth (there are as many ways to enlightenment as there are people in existence

And this relative/subjective aspect of Buddhism...is what generates the religion's major contradiction. If truth is "absolute." Then the path would be the same for everyone, it would not change.

Let's use the example of 2 + 2 = 4 to demonstrate this contradiction.

first 2 = any person
second 2 = way to absolute Truth
4 = Absolute Truth

Now if we change the 2nd "2" to "3" we now get the equation...

2 + 3 = 5

Notice that when the "way to absolute truth" changes..the "absolute truth" changes.

Case in point..

Different paths..lead to different outcomes. To say that different paths lead to the same outcome..is a relative, contradictory, illogical..and just plain foolish argument.

I believe a wise man once said...

insanity is defined by doing the same thing over and over again..and expecting a different outcome each time.

*note( it was either Benjamin Franklin or Thomas Jefferson)

I would like to add to these wise words...by taking this definition one step further and stating that insanity is also defined by doing different things over and over again...and expecting the same outcome each time...

Fin

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
Hay _Sanctuary_ I can't defend you if you say things like that. 😆

I don't actually beleive that! I was just looking at the world in a disturbing manor.... Which revolves all around me!

Originally posted by _Sanctuary_
I don't actually beleive that! I was just looking at the world in a disturbing manor.... Which revolves all around me!

And I was having fun, just teasing you. 😄

Whobdamandog, it is obvious that you know nothing about Buddhism and are too arrogant to admit it. After all you can’t even answer a simple Buddhist question.

its really all how u look at it. like in real life what is your defination of one? one what 1 unit? and than what is a unit? You cant make 2 pencils and 2 books equal 4 books or 4 pencils but they do equal 4 units. so really 2+2=4 units but what those units are is up to u.