Space pirate (metroid) Vs Elite (Halo)

Started by thegmeister5325 pages

Well, can you hardly blame him for disliking the book. There are a million things that don't follow through with Halo 2, like where are the rest of the Spartans. By the end of first strike Fred, Linda, Kelly, and Will are confirmed to be alive, and yet they are not in Halo 2.

And what the hell are you talking about? Master Chief used both hands to drag that bomb into the elevator. Stop trying to add all kinds of new abilities to the Chief. And if his strength is undetermined and we are not actually sure of what the strength of the elites is, then how can you simply say that they are stronger than the pirates? Their strength is comparable, not the same. I also don't remember any scenes in the books, where the Chief lifts a tank, but I could be wrong. And strength doesn't always win a battle. The pirates are much faster and more intelligent than the elites.

Talk about nut swinging. Your pulling your arguments out of your ass. And which suit are we talking about here? The one that we consantly see get riddled with bullets? If he were able to dodge bullets with the regular suit than he would have had no need to use stealth tactics. Also where does it say that bullets move at the speed of sound? Even if they do, the Chief gets hit quite a few times. So what does that mean? The author had to dumb the books down too so the Chief didn't look too powerful.

I also don't remember any scenes in the books, where the Chief lifts a tank

When a tank is on its head, MC is able to flip it over. Thats that sorted.

Also I wouldn't think bullets travel faster than the speed of sound. I was thinking about it and didn't check any sites but came up with an example to prove that bullets go slower than the speed of sound. I take my example from Saving Private Ryan, when the two snipers were looking for each other, when the sniper saw the other one he saw the shot go off and a split second later the sound of the gun.

Unless somehow in the game all guns magically have .50cal rounds in them.

The Space Pirate has the advantage because they can be properly invisible all the time.

Point taken about the tanks.

We don't know if the spartans died in another mission or were off somewhere else... The game make no metion to MC distroying the covenants "death star" in the 3rd book....

MC didn't appear to be struggling at all with the bomb. MC can flip tanks in the games...
I have yet to hear 1 Fact regarding a SP strength. Till then I will assume there that of a Peek human + a bit... Around 1-2 tons
I said MC and elites strength is comparable, not Elites and SP...
MC doesn't have eyes in the back of his head. He can see guns placed in front of him and dodge. He can't dodge all bullets but from 1 person he should be able to dodge a high majority....

Please provide some sort of facts regarding SP speed and intelligence.. as the games don't show nothing... Talk about hypocritical....
"Pulling arguments out of your ass" perhaps you should check what you write........

Try looking up some stuff before you talk... regular bullets move at about the speed of sound....
Depending on the round. they can travel much faster to quite abit slower... He dodged a 50 cal turrent...
only the arbitor has a defective camo suit... The rest of the elites suits can camo for ages...

Intellegence has NOTHING to with this, gorilla's are dumb but they sure as hell are good at cracking skulls. Oh, do you think the SP's found they're technology? No they made it themeselves which makes them as smart as the covenant. The SP's are also scientists, in MP1-2 they experiment with phazon and metroids. Do the covenant have any scientists? No, not what I of, they just keep dumbassing around with theyr shitass religeon, that's at the same level we were at during the mid-evil times.

First off, who said anything about a covenant death star? Second, given the track record of the spartans, I doubt that they could be killed off so easily with no mention of their deaths. First Strike ends right before Halo 2, don't you think that the humans would have enough sense to keep the Spartans around with a covenant force approaching? Third, judging by the fact that the Chief had to drag the bomb to the elevator and he had to pull it several times, I think that shows that he had a bit of a struggle with the bomb.

I am really beginning to doubt that you have played MP over 1 hour. If you actually took the time to scan the pirate logs, then you would see that they actually are intelligent, given the nature of the experiments that they are conducting. They also do not used stolen, half-assed equipment like the elites do. They stole their crappy equipment from the forerunners and they still get their asses kicked by the marines on land. According to Cortana, the elites haven't even tapped into the full capabilities of the forerunner equipment. What does that say about their intelligence? At least the space pirates are original and the experiments that they conduct are a perfect example of just how intelligent they are. If you actually played the game, you would see some of the crazy shit they came up with, like the elite pirates.

You have been given countless examples of how the space pirates are better than the elites. Even if the elites were stronger physically, that would mean nothing compared to the space pirates' agility and technology. It doesn't really help your argument to admit that bullets move at the speed of sound. If they move at the speed of sound and the Chief gets nailed quite a few times, then you should be able to put two and two together and figure out that he can't move at the speed of sound. Even if he doesn't have eyes in the back of his head, his motion tracker should be able to give him some support against bullets. And at least I have a thorugh knowlege of both Halo and Metroid, unlike you who spits out this bullshit that the elites would win. So before you call me a hypocrite, how 'bout you play MP and see how it goes.

Its fun time kinda garden school! Thats right kids time for your asses to get some freekin education!

Can anyone tell me whats the difference between a scientist and a soldier??? Thats right kids! none!!!!

Geezz I love the way kids think! Covenant have scientists. They are called engineers... if you had actually read the books you would know! they fix the spartans suits in 2 secs... suits they had never seen before in their lifes... I think thats qualifies them as "clever".. They just dont fight... The elites Who are "SOlDIERS" go into combat...
If an elite had to fight an engineer, the elite would win... why??? cause they are trainned to fight... The interlect they posses is focused towards fighting, and making wise tactical decisions... SP might beable to find 10001 uses for phason but that don't mean nout if the can't create a phason supercomputer terminator that can fight for them....

MC blows up a covenant space port dock thing... (Its been 1/2 years since I read the books... the death star was a joke... the inverted commas should of given this away....) (and I use brackets when I'm talking about something irrelevent to the post).... Who knows what happened to the other spartans... they could turn up in number 3... but I don't think they will as the there not really needed... MC does all the work.

Ive played the MP and MPE games.... As I have said... I know all about the invis SP and the flying kamakazi(sm) Sp and the uber teleport sp.... all.... Yes, ALL easily killed with a few shots...

Name a few ways SP are better then elites....
Like so....
Elites have shields
Elites are very strong
Elites have fast reactions
Elites have swords that can cut through 3 meters of grade A titanium

His reactions are at the speed of sound.. I didn't say he was a freaken Xman called quicksilver... He can't avoid a crossfire, but he can avoid a person shooting at him... His motion tracker doesn't show bullets being shot at him... (try thinking before you type... Its embarasing I have to reply to such jibba jabba...)

Your just resorting to making stuff up again... I've played through MP and MPE... I admit I haven't completed them But from looking how far I had gone I can tell you I was 80% throught them...
Keep this up kid... You might make fanboy status 1 day...

Originally posted by IcePunk
Intellegence has NOTHING to with this, gorilla's are dumb but they sure as hell are good at cracking skulls. Oh, do you think the SP's found they're technology? No they made it themeselves which makes them as smart as the covenant. The SP's are also scientists, in MP1-2 they experiment with phazon and metroids. Do the covenant have any scientists? No, not what I of, they just keep dumbassing around with theyr shitass religeon, that's at the same level we were at during the mid-evil times.

Your whole argument is nulled by the fact you don't even know the covenant have engineers... I ant buying any of your crazy here pal...

Listen, "friend", you have been told a million times how the space pirates are better than the elites, but you instead have choseen to ignore all the information that we give you. We have told you a million times how the space pirates are faster and much more intelligent. Last time I checked, physical strength isn't all that is needed to win a battle. The space pirates have superior technology (not to mention that they didn't rip it off from another race), are faster, and much more intelligent than your average elite. You asked me, several posts before, how the space pirates are faster and smarter than the elites. If you, again, took the time to scan in the game, then you would actually see how smart they are. I don't give two flipping shits about the engineers, this is between the elites and the space pirates. The space pirates are both warriors and scientists, unlike the elites. And you say that unless they can build a super computer, they are screwed, but tell me what are the turrets, elite pirates, omega pirate, and phazon enhanced metroids, if not weapons that they developed. They even state in their pirate logs how they will be using them against other planets. They are also no slouches at combat either, if you actually took the time to notice how many variations of space pirates there are and with al the various equipment that they have. This demonstrates how intelligence has led them to build superior technology that could easily rip apart an elite. As for their agility, have you seen the number of times where they hang from ceilings, break through glass, like after you kill your first metroid in MP, and jump around when engaged in combat? When was the last time we saw an elite jump down from a ceiling?

Your next argument is the most pitiful I've ever seen. The space pirates can be destroyed with "a few shots." You make it sound like shooting a pirate with the powerbeam kills it instantly. The elites aren't exactly invincible either. They can be killed in one shot using a plasma grenade or a rocket launcher. It also doesn't take many hits using a sniper rifle, plasma pistol, energy sword, or shotgun to kill one. So your whole argument about killing them in a few shots is really sad, since the elites die just as fast, if not faster. And on the argument about the book. You just brush it off saying, "Oh, they' re not needed." Well, they are needed because if they are just simply removed, then why should we pay attention to anything else from the books? Bungi doesn't seem to give two shits about what happens in the books, so why should we believe that MC has reflexes at the speed of sound.

And about the motion tracker. I never said that it would show bullets. I said that it would allow him to detect enemies all around him. This, in turn, should help him to continuously avoid the bullets. MC should have enough sense to watch out, when he is being attacked on both sides.
You don't even seem to know anything about the pirates. So I believe that it would be a more accurate assumption that you are the fanboy. Nice attempt at being intelligent though.

Originally posted by thegmeister53
Nice attempt at being intelligent though.

Well, he had to try, right? 😂

Well, we must give credit where credit is due. Am I right?

So.....what's everybody doing for New Year's?

Nuthin'.
I dont see why people celebrate a new year, new years have come countless times before, right? So, why bother celebrating this one to?

It actually depresses me, celebrating the New Year. It just makes it clearer and clearer that Christmas is over. 🙁

Originally posted by Hit_and_Miss
Keep this up kid... You might make fanboy status 1 day...

Yeah and that comes from the right mouth 😆 😆 😆

He's only five years older than me and he's calling me kid. 😐

Okay I have a question. If chief can move close to the speed of sound and can lift a tank than why does he not simply run across battlefields snapping necks and taking names? If he is so incredibly strong than why does he bother carrying a gun. Actually why does he even bother using doors since he can obviously just smash through any defense or wall with his fist. Also why do Brutes even hurt you when they charge at you in halo 2? You should just be able to stop them in their tracks and throw them 50 feet in the air. None of it makes any sense whatsoever.

Exactly. Such are the inconsistencies of the books. In The Fall of Reach, Chief has a struggle with his first elite. He can't snap the elites neck, like hit or miss wants to believe. That's why we can't trust anything that the books say. It's not like Metroid where everything follows through.

Yeah, good point. Hit & miss seems to like overhyping of video game characters 😄 and certainly those from the Halo series.

If chief can move close to the speed of sound

hmmm I don't think he said that. He said his reactions are at the speed of sound. Correct me if I'm wrong he never said Cheif could run at the speed of sound.

Guys, it's New Year's! We should all be friends and nice to one another. What happened to good will towards men and all that other bull? 🙂

But he did say that he is overly strong, strong enough to lift 40 tons, I know that cant be right