Flash vs. Thor

Originally posted by Juntai
I don't even understand the point of your first paragraph, I was countering what you said about why didn't Flash do that at [such and such time], why didn't Flash do this at [this other time]. I never said Thor has to do it either, I was saying, why doesn't he finish all his enemies like that, in a similar matter to Flash not doing the same thing to defeat all of his enemies. Sore loser? I'm not even losing!

A) According to the poll, you've already lost, despite your best arguments.

B) If you don't understand what the PIS or SvFL are, they're in the rules thread for this board. But in summation, just because the Flash does some wacky "lets absorb all the kinetic energy of the planet" crappola once, it's not continuity. In fact, the number of cases where Flash absorbs kinetic energy to defeat an opponent are vastly outweighed by the number of cases where he cannot, or does not. Or, in other words, this is not a viable tactic for this battle. It's too specialized, and too rare, to be considered.

Originally posted by Melnorme
A) According to the poll, you've already lost, despite your best arguments.

B) If you don't understand what the PIS or SvFL are, they're in the rules thread for this board. But in summation, just because the Flash does some wacky "lets absorb all the kinetic energy of the planet" crappola once, it's not continuity. In fact, the number of cases where Flash absorbs kinetic energy to defeat an opponent are vastly outweighed by the number of cases where he cannot, or does not. Or, in other words, this is not a viable tactic for this battle. It's too specialized, and too rare, to be considered.

of the planet is another issue however

Originally posted by kgkg
No absorbing kinetic energy has been too often in flash comics to be called PIS

of the planet is another issue however

and btw, Polls don't mean much to me, some members of the forum think Wolverine can throw down with Superman because of his powers and claws, another set thinks he can do it because he's from Marvel and DC sucks. There is some great debators here, but there's a lot of kids who don't know ANYTHING about comics at all.

And it's not a matter of Flash beating Thor always...but Flash CAN do it. He has the speed power and abilities to beat Thor. That's all I'm trying to say. Inevitably and invariably, Thor would win some.

Originally posted by kgkg
No absorbing kinetic energy has been too often in flash comics to be called PIS

of the planet is another issue however

How about a few scans of his doing this to completely defeat a few heavy hitting, god-types? I'll concede it's not PIS if he sucks all the speed out of a Superman-level badass, and the badass doesn't rally in the next panel as badasses are wont to do in comics! 😛

Originally posted by Juntai
And it's not a matter of Flash beating Thor always...but Flash CAN do it. He has the speed power and abilities to beat Thor. That's all I'm trying to say. Inevitably and invariably, Thor would win some.

Dub...Thor would win most. 7/10 or better.

Originally posted by Melnorme
How about a few scans of his doing this to completely defeat a few heavy hitting, god-types? I'll concede it's not PIS if he sucks all the speed out of a Superman-level badass, and the badass doesn't rally in the next panel as badasses are wont to do in comics! 😛

And if you check the Flash Superman thread, there's several good scans as well, specifically ones of Superman getting drained or Wally mentioning he could.

Originally posted by Juntai
http://www.comicboards.com/comicbattles/view.php?rpl=050629054718

Sorry. I'm not seeing anything in there that meets my requirements. Perhaps you could get a bit more specific?

Flash is too frail to go against Thor. None of his cheesy kinetic energy stealing attacks are going to work since Thor has the ability to counter them. Blasts from Thor won't allow Flash to heal from them since they will rend him into pieces. Thor fights in 3 dimentions while Flash fights in two. Thor wins.

It's either Flash wins 10/10 by having too many, too powerful tricks up his sleeve, or he loses.

From how jrod and Juntia say Flash can do, he probably would win 10/10. Even though the mongoose thing is to Thor as the Slade thing is to Flash.

Originally posted by long pig
It's either Flash wins 10/10 by having too many, too powerful tricks up his sleeve, or he loses.

From how jrod and Juntia say Flash can do, he probably would win 10/10. Even though the mongoose thing is to Thor as the Slade thing is to Flash.

Thor also has a few "tricks" up his sleeve. Probably more than Flash since he commands magic, which Flash is susceptible to. Flash doesn't have any attack to finish Thor while Thor's God-blast will finish Flash.

I say it's Thor 9/10

Originally posted by scotsmn
Thor also has a few "tricks" up his sleeve. Probably more than Flash since he commands magic, which Flash is susceptible to. Flash doesn't have any attack to finish Thor while Thor's God-blast will finish Flash.

I say it's Thor 9/10

How does Thor deal with a kinetic steal?

Originally posted by long pig
How does Thor deal with a kinetic steal?

By stealing Flash's energy, thus replenishing Thor and making Flash and his power weaker.

How does Flash counter being warped to another universe?

Originally posted by long pig
How does Thor deal with a kinetic steal?

Do you have any scans of Flash stealing kinetic energy from a character of Thor's caliber? So far I've only seen steals from pretty mundane folks.

Originally posted by scotsmn
By stealing Flash's energy, thus replenishing Thor and making Flash and his power weaker.

How does Flash counter being warped to another universe?

Originally posted by Melnorme
Do you have any scans of Flash stealing kinetic energy from a character of Thor's caliber? So far I've only seen steals from pretty mundane folks.

Originally posted by long pig

Nah, don't really need 'em. Kinetic energy is kinetic energy, gods don't make a different type than humans.

My point stands; if he could so readily do this, he would be more than a match for any villain, and yet he doesn't use this technique as readily as you imply. The burden of proof lies with you to show that this isn't due to a lack of ability or some inherant resistance, as I am stating.

A god presumably has a lot more kinetic energy,

you to show that this isn't due to a lack of ability or some inherant resistance,

Originally posted by long pig
Why would you presume something as....wrong...as that?

Because he clearly does. He hits harder than a mortal, thus more kinetic energy.

Basic physics. He can do more Work, in less Time, hence he must necessarily have more Energy.

Main Entry: kinetic energy
Function: noun
: energy associated with motion

Originally posted by Melnorme
Because he clearly does. He hits harder than a mortal, thus more kinetic energy.

Basic physics. He can do more Work, in less Time, hence he must necessarily have more Energy.