Obi-Wan(ROTS) And Anakin(ROTS) Vs Mace Windu(ROTS)

Originally posted by Sorgo
I didn't even have to read your last post and I don't know how many times I have to tell you this before it ACTUALLY gets through your head.

Kenobi VS Dooku: Dooku could rip apart Kenobi, Correct?
Dooku VS Anakin: Anakin killed Dooku.
Kenobi VS Anakin: Anakin got schooled.

^ By your logic, because Dooku could not defeat Yoda and Yoda stalemated with Sidious that Sidious would crush Dooku, yet the example I just showed you proved the criss-cross Analogy bullshit completely wrong.

Hmm... Now THAT'S Weird, Escape.

Never said that would happen. Never said Dooku would be crushed. But what I did say is that it isn't likely that he could beat Sidious.

Originally posted by Escape81
Never said that would happen. Never said Dooku would be crushed. But what I did say is that it isn't likely that he could beat Sidious.

Right...

You don't direct proof except for Sidious' accomplishments against other people and the Criss-Cross Analogy crap that I have clearly proved to be false.

I leave it at this: We most likely will never know because they never fought.

Because Dooku knew he couldn't beat him. If he could have, he would have.

Damn this is a good thread!

*pets Dark Envy*

"You have been good my child."

I believe that overall, anakin AND obi wan is simply too much for mace. mace is an excellent fighter, and even killed jango fett (which many overlook) but hes not enough for two of the best and most compatible jedi ever. obi wan had defensive skills, and anakin dips in to the darkside and generates offensive skills. they would either win by skill, or win by mace tiring himself.

Originally posted by mace=badass
Because Dooku knew he couldn't beat him. If he could have, he would have.

didnt nic gillard say anakin was a level 9 duelist? thats about as high as it goes, he should be at least roughly equal to mace, obi wan was level 8 and won though experience and anakins arrogance, plus his defencive abilities are unmatched. i think the two of them can put mace down fairly hard. it would probably start out seeminly even matched but after a while it would become evident that mace just doesnt have enough.

although that being said if anakin made a mistake mace would cut him up worse than obi wan did. mace has a chance, but only if he can capitalise on something one of them did wrong.

Just to be clear here...

The databank is not canon, nor is it the words of George Lucas.

Originally posted by Sorgo
Wrong. He didn't want to elminate Dooku. I could imagine he had seconds thoughts, but the two were extremely powerful together and Dooku was somewhat not the "Darkest" Sith around. He wanted to turn Anakin to the Dark side and break the rule of three. Just because he didn't go up to Sidious and kill him doesn't mean he couldn't.

But considering how Sidious was bound, shackled, and in a completely powerless position means this:

a) Dooku did not intend to overthrow Sidious at all.
or
b) Dooku feared Sidious, and decided to wait a while longer.
or
c) Dooku wanted or needed Anakin to help him, first.
or
d) Dooku was simply doing as he was told.

Originally posted by Escape81
But considering how Sidious was bound, shackled, and in a completely powerless position means this:

a) Dooku did not intend to overthrow Sidious at all.
or
b) Dooku feared Sidious, and decided to wait a while longer.
or
c) Dooku wanted or needed Anakin to help him, first.
or
d) Dooku was simply doing as he was told.

^All not facts.

Why would he? He simply has no reason. No one is going to fear a shackled man. He knew the relationship Palpatine and Anakin had and wanted Anakin to join the three of them to be an unstoppable Uber-Sith Trio. If he would have killed Palpatine, Anakin would have been 100% Unturnable.

And like I said before, Dooku isn't a Coward like some Sith. He seeks a fair fight.

Originally posted by Ushgarak
Just to be clear here...

The databank is not canon, nor is it the words of George Lucas.

Proof, Ushgarak?

Anakin and Obiwan as they were in ROTS would beat mace because a) Anakin is pretty damn powerful and would hold his own against mace, unless he made a mistake. and if he pulled his Dark Rage tech he might be able to beat mace single-handed like he did with dooku. b)Obi-Wan is a very good at defending thanx to his form so he could "survive" for some time. The Obi+Ani is the best team known in the movies. Theres no reason why they cant beat mace. Mace is not a god, nor is he marka ragnos, he will lose, its reasonable to think so.

a) Anakin is pretty damn powerful and would hold his own against mace, unless he made a mistake. and if he pulled his Dark Rage tech he might be able to beat mace single-handed like he did with dooku.

1. Darth Rage is not a real character.

2. I believe Dooku threw the fight against Anakin

3. Anakin is extremely hot-headed, and he thinks far too highly of himself. Chances are that he will be the first one to make a mistake against Mace.

The Obi+Ani is the best team known in the movies. Theres no reason why they cant beat mace. Mace is not a god, nor is he marka ragnos, he will lose, its reasonable to think so.

You don't have to be near Marka Ragnos in order to defeat Obi-Wan and Anakin. They aren't a godly team either. Dooku pretty much pwned them in under a minute.

Yes but Dooku is a sith that will use force choke and offensive force powers to win unlike Jedi that basically know force push as an offensive move. Not to mention Obi-Wan could hold his own against Mace

1. Darth Rage is not a real character.

2. I believe Dooku threw the fight against Anakin

You don't have to be near Marka Ragnos in order to defeat Obi-Wan and Anakin. They aren't a godly team either. Dooku pretty much pwned them in under a minute.

True, but Mace has proved himself a fairly ruthless Jedi. He beheaded Jango and used force crush against grievous (if this isn't cannon, I'll concede it). Not to mention that he created and practices the most dangerous form of lightsaber duelling. If Obi-Wan and Anakin really use their cohesive teamwork, something that they didn't quite show against Dooku, then they will win. If not, Mace has a crack at it. Either way, it'd be a really rough battle.

Actually, in the ROTS AC, GL says Anakin proved himself stronger than Dooku.

wtf? Glentract told me Dooku threw the fight...

I believe Dooku did throw the fight for these facts.

1.) If the Republic won the war Dooku would have been dead
2.) If Dooku lost to Anakin but wasn't killed Dooku would have been taking to courts
3.) Grievous would continue the war leading the CIS
4.) Dooku would blame everything on Grievous
5.) Palp takes control of the galaxy
6.) Sidious and Dooku rules the galaxy

Not to mention that Grievous said Dooku expected Obi and Ani to dock on the flagship.

I believe Dooku threw the fight. If Anakin can beat Dooku that means Anakin can beat Obi-Wan. Dooku Pwned Obi then got pwned by Ani. Makes no sense does it?