Obi-Wan(ROTS) And Anakin(ROTS) Vs Mace Windu(ROTS)

It says the only people that are able to compete/defeat Mace are Dooku and Yoda.

Originally posted by darthsith19
Who's it? Wikipedia? Whatever, my source overrule's yours as mine's George Lucas.

It was said only two opponents ever bested him -- Yoda, and Dooku.

^ Databank, so shut up.

Sorgo wins! Databank does indeed say that; if you want a confirmation, go check yourself.

Originally posted by overlord
zOMG!! Anakun pawnd Mace Windo in teh office!!!!11!11!11
Dark Envy gets electrocuted by Plo Koon afterwards.

Score!

Originally posted by Sorgo
It was said only two opponents ever bested him -- Yoda, and Dooku.

^ Databank, so shut up.

Originally posted by Captain REX
Sorgo wins! Databank does indeed say that; if you want a confirmation, go check yourself.

Score!

Originally posted by darthsith19
Yeah, Dooku bested Mace when Mace was younger. But Dooku couldn't ever compete with Sidious, Mace could.

You amuse me. Since when has the databank been more offficial than what GL says?

You are a *COLOSSAL* Moron.

You automatically assume that Dooku can't contend let alone defeat Sidious?

Got any proof?

Did Sidious ever fight with Dooku?

Does it say that Sidious could best Dooku?

The Databank COMES DIRECTLY FROM GEORGE'S SITE! It is completely valid information.

God, what the hell is wrong with you? Does Lucas have to say everything? HE HAS THE F*CKING DATABANK SO HE DOESN'T HAVE TO SAY EVERYTHING, GODDAMNIT!

Originally posted by Sorgo
You are a *COLOSSAL* Moron.

You automatically assume that Dooku can't contend let alone defeat Sidious?

Got any proof?

Did Sidious ever fight with Dooku?

Does it say that Sidious could best Dooku?

The Databank COMES DIRECTLY FROM GEORGE'S SITE! It is completely valid information.

God, what the hell is wrong with you? Does Lucas have to say everything? HE HAS THE F*CKING DATABANK SO HE DOESN'T HAVE TO SAY EVERYTHING, GODDAMNIT!

SORGO CALM DOWN! Relax before u explode ur lungs!

Originally posted by Sorgo
You are a *COLOSSAL* Moron.

You automatically assume that Dooku can't contend let alone defeat Sidious?

Got any proof?

Did Sidious ever fight with Dooku?

Does it say that Sidious could best Dooku?

The Databank COMES DIRECTLY FROM GEORGE'S SITE! It is completely valid information.

God, what the hell is wrong with you? Does Lucas have to say everything? HE HAS THE F*CKING DATABANK SO HE DOESN'T HAVE TO SAY EVERYTHING, GODDAMNIT!

Hmmm...

Okay, then.

Taken from Yoda's Official Databank Profile:

Yoda and Dooku engaged in battle. First, their powers in the Force were put to test, as Dooku attempted to crush the tiny Jedi Master with hurled debris. Yoda easily deflected such assaults, and even repulsed Dooku's Force lightning attacks. The contest came down to a duel of lightsabers. In a climactic battle, the two master combatants displayed amazing speed and agility. Yoda, empowered by the Force, leaped through the air, twirling and battering at Dooku's defenses. Dooku only managed to escape by using the Force to once again jeopardize Anakin and Obi-Wan. Knowing that Yoda's nobility would buy him time, Dooku fled as the ancient Jedi Master saved his younger compatriots.

Also Taken from Yoda's Official Databank Profile:

Inside the spacious interior of the Galactic Senate chambers, Yoda challenged the Emperor. The two entered into a spectacular duel -- a contest between the most powerful practitioners of the Force's light and dark sides. The Emperor proved too powerful to defeat. Though Yoda held his own for much of the duel, in the end, the Sith bested him. He realized that directly confronting the Sith would be doomed to failure. Defeated, Yoda slinked away into the shadows of the Senate chamber's cavernous depths, leaping into a waiting getaway speeder piloted by Bail Organa.

Not to bring this up... but assuming that the Databank is true, then it is a fact that Yoda was going to defeat Count Dooku... and that the Emperor was too powerful for Yoda to defeat... and that Yoda and the Emperor are: "the two most powerful practitioners of the Force's Light and Dark sides".

Hmmm... Interesting.

You are a *COLOSSAL* Moron.

You automatically assume that Dooku can't contend let alone defeat Sidious?

Got any proof?

Did Sidious ever fight with Dooku?

Does it say that Sidious could best Dooku?

The Databank COMES DIRECTLY FROM GEORGE'S SITE! It is completely valid information.

If you ever ask me, I'd say Dooku's lightsaber skills are superior to that of Sidious's. Dooku has completely mastered the lightsaber style designed specifically to fight other lightsaber wielders. So in the setting where Mace fought Sidious, where using force powers isn't very convenient, I say Dooku could take Sidious.

So in the setting where Mace fought Sidious, where using force powers isn't very convenient, I say Dooku could take Sidious.

The statement could mean overall

Originally posted by darthsith19
So how do you explain George Lucas's statement?

Dooku COULD defeat Sidious. In other words, Dooku isn't guarenteed a victory, it doesn't make him more powerful, but he could pull it off.

Lucas's quote is ambigious. I myself have used it in an argument, many a time. At the same time, perhaps it is because he never considered Dooku fighting Sidious. Then again, given the level of absent continuity, it is also possible that Dooku could not compete with Sidious, either.

If Dooku could contend with Sidious, do you think he would have tried to kill him?

That is possible. I personally believe that Sidious is more powerful than Dooku, but I do not think it would be an ownage fight on Sidious's part, either. Sidious has been labeled as the most powerful practitioner of the Dark Side during modern times, so if Dooku were more powerful, it would be he who holds that title. I believe that, in the Force, Dooku lacks Sidious's strength or mastery. But this is my opinion.

I agree with you, I think Sidious is more powerful, I think if Dooku was more powerful than Sidious, he would've taken advantage of that, and killed Sidious.

True, Sidious's powers are superior to that of Dooku, but not by a lot though. But in lightsaber skills, gonna have to go with the count, again, by a inch or two.

Originally posted by Escape81
Not to bring this up... but assuming that the Databank is true, then it is a fact that Yoda was going to defeat Count Dooku... and that the Emperor was too powerful for Yoda to defeat... and that Yoda and the Emperor are: "the two most powerful practitioners of the Force's Light and Dark sides".

Hmmm... Interesting.

I didn't even have to read your last post and I don't know how many times I have to tell you this before it ACTUALLY gets through your head.

Kenobi VS Dooku: Dooku could rip apart Kenobi, Correct?
Dooku VS Anakin: Anakin killed Dooku.
Kenobi VS Anakin: Anakin got schooled.

^ By your logic, because Dooku could not defeat Yoda and Yoda stalemated with Sidious that Sidious would crush Dooku, yet the example I just showed you proved the criss-cross Analogy bullshit completely wrong.

Hmm... Now THAT'S Weird, Escape.

Originally posted by darthsith19
Thank you, but that's reall uncalled for.

Nope. But I'll take Goerge Lucas's word for it.

Yup, and I've posted it.

Not that I know of.

Yup.

The databanks are written by Pablo Hidalgo, Bonnie Burton and Paul Ens. Not George Lucas.

It says Sidious could best Dooku? Show me.

George Lucas doesn't have to write it for it to be a fact.

He probably got these people to write it. Just like he got Gillard to teach the Actors how to Duel. WAIT! Lucas didn't do it, so that means they all can't fight and the Lightsaber Forms are fake because George didn't say it... Right?