Zoom VS. Cloak

Started by Adam Warlock2 pages

Zoom VS. Cloak

Who takes it?

Debate.

Zoom wins

what is cloak going 2 do to zoom

What's Zoom gonna do to him? Punch him?

Cloak takes him easy, assuming he starts out intangible. One he does that, he just opens up the dark portal thing and lets Zoom run into it.

And Zoom will just blip into the timestream and go back to when Cloak was a gangbanger in Harlem and blitz him to death.

Originally posted by Draco69
And Zoom will just blip into the timestream and go back to when Cloak was a gangbanger in Harlem and blitz him to death.

How would he know to do that? Did the thread maker say combatants have prep? 🙂 Nope.

Both combatants don't have any knowledge of each other. Zoom not knowing what Cloak's powers were, would probably run in and try to punch him. 😄 Trapping him forever within Cloak's dimension. Cloak wins.

Originally posted by Adam Warlock
How would he know to do that? Did the thread maker say combatants have prep? 🙂 Nope.

Whattya mean? That's his power. He isn't a Speed Forcer. He can control the speed of time in his reference frame. Meaning, he can zip back to any place he had previously or WILL be in time. He thinks. He's out of the Cloak dimension and back where he originally started during the battle.

Originally posted by Adam Warlock
Both combatants don't have any knowledge of each other. Zoom not knowing what Cloak's powers were, would probably run in and try to punch him. 😄 Trapping him forever within Cloak's dimension. Cloak wins.

Yeah. I covered that above. And what makes you think Cloak will be intangible at that start of the battle? Like that would work anyway. Time can be frozen for Zoom. Time frozen of Cloak while he's intangible means his molecules have also stopped. He's technically solid. Zoom knocks his ghetto a$$ to Pluto.

Originally posted by Draco69

Zoom knocks his ghetto a$$ to Pluto.

...... 😆

Cloak is my A-Number-One Hands-Down-Favorite Verses-Board Character Humbler. He could take Thanos, Wolverine, Juggernaut; you name it. Short of somebody who could get off a pre-emptive KO, or with enough mystical might to not have his or her soul eaten by the Thing in the Dark; Cloak rules.

I agree with Draco69 that Zoom has the advantage with stopping time but Zoom in his twisted mind would more likely kill Dagger to try to make Cloak a better hero and toy with him.

Originally posted by Laminator_X
Cloak is my A-Number-One Hands-Down-Favorite Verses-Board Character Humbler. He could take Thanos, Wolverine, Juggernaut; you name it. Short of somebody who could get off a pre-emptive KO, or with enough mystical might to not have his or her soul eaten by the Thing in the Dark; Cloak rules.

🤨 .........................

Yeah. I covered that above. And what makes you think Cloak will be intangible at that start of the battle? Like that would work anyway. Time can be frozen for Zoom. Time frozen of Cloak while he's intangible means his molecules have also stopped. He's technically solid. Zoom knocks his ghetto a$$ to Pluto. [/B][/QUOTE]

if that's the case then the air molecules which are intangible, would be solid too making anyone with time freezing power ineffective whenever they use their powers.

Originally posted by LordKaos

if that's the case then the air molecules which are intangible, would be solid too making anyone with time freezing power ineffective whenever they use their powers. [/QUOTE]

Not Zoom. His powers make him immune to that sort of thing. And air molecules aren't intangible...

then why can i walk through them and only somebody like shadowcat can walk on them when she is phased? if in fact air is displaced as we move through it we would not be able to breath while in motion.

Originally posted by LordKaos
Yeah. I covered that above. And what makes you think Cloak will be intangible at that start of the battle? Like that would work anyway. Time can be frozen for Zoom. Time frozen of Cloak while he's intangible means his molecules have also stopped. He's technically solid. Zoom knocks his ghetto a$$ to Pluto.

if that's the case then the air molecules which are intangible, would be solid too making anyone with time freezing power ineffective whenever they use their powers. [/B][/QUOTE]
Comics doesn't follow that logic.

Ie. THor did that

I have never seen Zoom stop time for everyone.

Though he is not a speedsters he just travel at a higher plane (doesn’t produce kinetic energy)

Originally posted by LordKaos
then why can i walk through them and only somebody like shadowcat can walk on them when she is phased?

Walk Through them? If air molecules were intangible we wouldn't be able to breathe.....

After all, we walk through them right? Right....

Originally posted by kgkg
if that's the case then the air molecules which are intangible, would be solid too making anyone with time freezing power ineffective whenever they use their powers.

Comics doesn't follow that logic.

Originally posted by kgkg
I have never seen Zoom stop time for everyone.

No, no, no. Time is frozen only for Zoom. The world is entirely frozen for Hunter Zolomon. That's why he has to continually zip out and in of the timestream to talk or converse with people. Doing so gives him "superspeed". It's not really speed. It's all time-control.

Originally posted by kgkg
Though he is not a speedsters he just travel at a higher plane

Yeah. Time.

Originally posted by Draco69
Whattya mean? That's his power. He isn't a Speed Forcer. He can control the speed of time in his reference frame. Meaning, he can zip back to any place he had previously or WILL be in time. He thinks. He's out of the Cloak dimension and back where he originally started during the battle.

Yeah. I covered that above. And what makes you think Cloak will be intangible at that start of the battle? Like that would work anyway. Time can be frozen for Zoom. Time frozen of Cloak while he's intangible means his molecules have also stopped. He's technically solid. Zoom knocks his ghetto a$$ to Pluto.

Shit, just thought Zoom was an evil nemesis version of Barry Allen...

Though isn't Cloak always intangible unless he's recently absorbed a lot of people? And how does his intangibility work, anyway? Is it like Vision, who simply makes himself more or less dense, or is it like Strange's astral form? (I don't think Strange would get hurt by physical force in astral form, even in a time stop) I don't know enough about Cloak's powers to really tell whether Zoom could beat him or not. Apparently, Zoom isn't getting taken out, so the best Cloak's going to get is a stalemate.

intangible means incapable of being touched or seen, sounds like air molecules to me