Luke Cage & Iron Fist vs Batman & Nightwing

The fight's between Batman, Nightwing, Luke Cage, and Iron Fist. Not their suppliers. I'm just assuming Batman usually carries:

-Batarangs
-Grappling Hook
-Armor-Taser
-Gas pellets
-Gas masks
-Maybe a sonic device

Giving them Mother Boxes or something is silly.

Anyway, Cage would murder the Grundy that was defeated by Green Arrow. In a recent GA issue, not the Brad Meltzer one. I don't think anything in Batman's regular arsenal could bring him down. Screw up his inner ear, disorient him and bring up a long stream of ghettobonic cursing, sure. Taking him out of the fight is beyond their capability....

Iron Fist punched out Wolverine. Now, this was Wolverine before he started to remember his past, and thus he didn't have access then to all the skills he had today. But even then, he could whether a FULL POWER punch from Colossus, and come up saying, "that just made me mad--and baby, the Wolverine LIKES to get mad!" But Iron Fist knocked his lights out.

And it's true. Everything in comics can be related back to Wolverine. EVERYTHING. 🏴‍☠️

Originally posted by Piedmon
The fight's between Batman, Nightwing, Luke Cage, and Iron Fist. Not their suppliers. I'm just assuming Batman usually carries:

-Batarangs
-Grappling Hook
-Armor-Taser
-Gas pellets
-Gas masks
-Maybe a sonic device

That's VERY outdated. He carries alot more than that. People think he's DC's Captain America or Daredevil. But in a way he's more like Iron Man. His costume is RIDDLED with gadgets. Thing is, he only seems to use the high-tech ones against metahumans. He also has electro-rangs and freeze-rangs. Um. Oh! He also carries "Jack in the Beanstalk" pellets liberated from Poison Ivy.

Originally posted by Piedmon
Giving them Mother Boxes or something is silly.

I agree. In some ways it is, but if you're one of the richest men on Earth AND you have access to god-like technology...

Originally posted by Piedmon
Screw up his inner ear, disorient him and bring up a long stream of ghettobonic cursing, sure.

The sonics don't merely "screw up your inner ear" they render you deaf with a complete lack of balance. It can also deeply damage your brain if it's tuned up. It can potentially give Cage a stroke.

Originally posted by Piedmon
Taking him out of the fight is beyond their capability....

No it's not. Nerve gas. EM pulse. Stroke inducing sonics. Paralyis darts.

Originally posted by Piedmon
Iron Fist punched out Wolverine. Now, this was Wolverine before he started to remember his past, and thus he didn't have access then to all the skills he had today.

That's nice. Batman once kicked Wonder Woman and Captain Marvel...

Originally posted by Piedmon
But even then, he could whether a FULL POWER punch from Colossus, and come up saying, "that just made me mad--and baby, the Wolverine LIKES to get mad!" But Iron Fist knocked his lights out.

Dear god. You're referring to Contest of Champions? Black Widow defeating Wonder Man and X-Force, Wolverine beating Hercules with BONE claws Contest of Champions? Dear god....

Originally posted by Piedmon
And it's true. Everything in comics can be related back to Wolverine. EVERYTHING. 🏴‍☠️

Bah! Superman's overexposure far outmatches his.

Actually, I'm referring to an old issue of X-Men penned by Chris Claremont himself, from way back in the 70's. (Contest of Champions must have been much later if it had Boneverine.)

Giving Cage a stroke.... nah, I'm pretty sure that'd go against the whole "oath against killing" thing. I'm assuming neither side is bloodlusted at the start of the match. Cage would only squeeze hard enough until they passed out, and likewhise Rand wouldn't use enough chi to kill them.

And if Batman gets all this, then I say Cage should get Wrecker's crowbar. Only fair. >[

Originally posted by Piedmon
Actually, I'm referring to an old issue of X-Men penned by Chris Claremont himself, from way back in the 70's. (Contest of Champions must have been much later if it had Boneverine.)

Ah.

Originally posted by Piedmon
Giving Cage a stroke.... nah, I'm pretty sure that'd go against the whole "oath against killing" thing. I'm assuming neither side is bloodlusted at the start of the match. Cage would only squeeze hard enough until they passed out, and likewhise Rand wouldn't use enough chi to kill them.

Strokes aren't always lethal...

Originally posted by Piedmon
And if Batman gets all this, then I say Cage should get Wrecker's crowbar. Only fair. >[

Why not? Let's add another infamous stereotype to this already racist character.

Captain America looks all heroic with flag shield and Cage looks like a gangbanger with a friggin crowbar.

You're right. Let's give Cage some thick glasses, a bow tie, hike his pants up to about here, and--

"DID I DEEEW THAAAT?"

😂

Also: Strokes aren't always lethal, but would Batman take the chance? I don't think so.

Batman's ****ing nuts right now. One minute's he's all self-righteous, the next he's bashing Black Mask's face in. I wouldn't make assumptions. Crazy bastard.

True enough. But killing is the one line I don't think he'll ever cross--not necessarily because his will is indomitable, but because if he ever tries to cross that line, Batman has built up a circle of people who care about him who won't let him destroy himself.

I can see it now. Iron Fist mule-kicks Nightwing into Cage, Dick almost bouncing off from the sheer hard impact until Cage wraps his big arms around NW and starts to crush him..... Batman flips out as Dick drops to the ground unconscious, pulls his sonic emitter and cranks it up to maximum.

Cage staggers, blood trickling from nostrils and ears, swearing and stumbling to his knees as Batman advances relentlessly.... Batman thinking "why shouldn't I...." when Oracle patches in on the radio and talks him down.

Then Iron Fist cracks him from behind. *Ahem.*

can't iron fist make his abilities like agility and reflex go to almost spiderman levels.

Yep. He needs time to channel his energy, though.

i wonder how much batgod weighs with all these gadgets that can defeat ANYONE...lord knows he must have a million different items .

He keeps it in his Bat-Extradimensional Hole.

(This is a bump, btw)

I agree with Draco. H2H, Dick and Bruce get destroyed. They are pretty crafty though. I'm inclined to say a 5/10 split. 😮

Originally posted by armandovalles
Cage and IF take this....u didnt say Batman has prep, so in a normal fight he'd lose to Cage since he wouldnt have had time to prepare something to get past Cage's skin....and IF in my opinion could take Nightwing.

Wait so Batman and Nightwing can beat Amazo by thereselves but can not take on these two?

Cage can take out both Batboys solo leaving Iron Fist time to do a Burger King run.... Batman and his "prep time" are so OVERRATED.....Nightwing is a Daredevil wannabe with a supid looking uniform! The Mighty Marvel Men take this on easy!

IF one shots BM and NW.

IronFist would be to fast for either Batman, or Nightwing.

How would Iron Fist stand up to a 100,000 volts? Nightwing carries a stun-gun with that charge he could use, his suit is also features a taser charge which he could use if Iron Fist layed a hand on him. They both have EMP, C4, sonic and sleep gas weapons to try against Cage. All standard equipment, its a mismatch on the face of it but if they fully used their weapons they could give Danny and Luke a good fight.

Danny's really good, and would take NW in a fistfight and probably Batman too. In the teamwork department, Luke and Danny are good enough that Bruce and Dick's teamwork advantage isn't as large. However, with gadgets, Bruce and Dick can take down Luke with relative ease, leaving IF stuck with a 2 on 1. I say that Batman and Nightwing will probably take it 7/10. It'll still be close, but as long as Bruce and Dick use gadgets they've got a bigger advantage. The only way Luke and Danny win is if they manage to quickly KO either Bruce or Dick at the start, which isn't as likely.