The X-men vs The JLA: Last stand of the X-men

Started by Superherovandal8 pages

MM is vastly better than Xavier as a telepath. he could easily put tp shields on all his teammates and fight X and Jean at the same time add AM to the equation and its overkill. Flash can give the speed force to people and he can take away speed. and annihilate all the X-men in a fraction of a second. same for many of the JLA. They have just too many more powerful and numerous options.

Originally posted by Dark Urizen
AFAIK Wally can't "give" the speedforce, only "take". Given that, he doesn't even have to give anyone the speedforce. One lightspeed punch from a regular human aka wally - one punch from Superman according to Wonder Woman. It can go either way. I can think of the following scenarios.

That's not true. There have been various occasions where Flash has "lent" his speed to his teammates. Most infamously during the Adam Strange storyline.

X-men plan:
- Emma instantly takes over Flash's mind. Now tell me how him manipulating his metabolism can stop the mind control.
- Prof X and Jean keep Manhunter and Aquaman in check just long enough for Emma to direct Flash at them. They're now fighting Prof X, Jean telepathically and Flash physically.
- Cable keeps Green Arrow under constant fire
- Iceman is basically unbeatable, since he just reconstruct instantly from vapor. His task is to help flash against Manhunter and Aquaman.
With the two out of the game, it's like this:

[QUOTE=5531625]Originally posted by Dark Urizen
[B]

JLA Plan (they do have ten minutes of prep)

-Martian Manhunter and Green Lantern use their powers to render everyone completely invulnerable to psi-attacks. If GL can do it against Hector Hammond...
-Flash gives his teammates the Speed Force. Everyone is capable of exceeding light.
-Green Lantern used his prep to identify the mutant genome in the X-Men via prodding from Batman. Using the ring, the mutant genome is deactivated.
-the X-Men suffer a humilating defeat.

Or

-Wonder Woman uses the Godwave prior to the battle
-Green Lantern taps into the Power Battery and transforms into Ion
-Green Lantern supercharges Superman with solar energy making him close prime
-Wonder Woman renders her teammates invisible and telepathcially immune via the Invisible Plane. Green Lantern can do this too.

So many strategies really.

Flash once heard an gunshot a mile away. He turned into his costume, ran all the way there, searched the immense crowd, found the bullet from the back of an police woman and took out the sniper who was far away before anyone realized anything. I can post the scans later, I am not on my comp now...

But yeah, he can react faster then X, Jean and Emma.

Did anybody read JLA vs X-men?

Some funny stuff

Flash can lend speed.

He can also take the entire team into the SF dimension and turn 10 minutes of prep into 2 weeks.

Damn fancy internet mark ups.

http://img225.imageshack.us/my.php?image=flash101220ec.jpg

Originally posted by The Ion
Damn fancy internet mark ups.

http://img225.imageshack.us/my.php?image=flash101220ec.jpg


Doesn’t really show he can give his speed tho

Just shows whoever he touches can also be as fast as him.

This would make since for ex. when he takes his wife for a ride (she doesn't die because of the force created by using such speeds)

do you have other proof maybe he can do it

Ah, well then, i see my plan defeated. Congrats Draco and Ion 🙂

I'm still not convinced of what superherovandal is saying about MM. I need some serious proof.

It's somewhere in the Flash Respect Thread. I'm too lazy to dig it up. If you read the issue in JLA where Flash gives Superman his speed to outrace the Zeta Beam that's a good example

Originally posted by Draco69
It's somewhere in the Flash Respect Thread. I'm too lazy to dig it up. If you read the issue in JLA where Flash gives Superman his speed to outrace the Zeta Beam that's a good example
ohh i have seen that

but is that sharing or giving?

Originally posted by kgkg
Doesn’t really show he can give his speed tho

Just shows whoever he touches can also be as fast as him.

This would make since for ex. when he takes his wife for a ride (she doesn't die because of the force created by using such speeds)

do you have other proof maybe he can do it


http://img73.imageshack.us/my.php?image=flashv2132061yf.jpg
http://img73.imageshack.us/my.php?image=flashv2132075uj.jpg

Does it really matter though? If everyone in the JLA holds hands with Wally and just makes a straight line they could bumrush the X-Men to death. 😆

Originally posted by Dark Urizen
That's nice. Think he can react faster than Emma, Jean and Prof X all together? Cause i doubt he can take them all out before he's mind-controlled. Especially given the fact that it takes him a while to build up momentum.

do u even know who flash is?

😆

actually nm he can indeed lend speed

how can i forget this was my fav scan 😮

If it's God like cable and God like iceman and perhaps put nate grey into the mix, perhaps the x-team have a slight chance.

Originally posted by Solidus Snake
do u even know who flash is?

😆

Yes, i do. Do you have a way of explaining how he can find and take out Xavier before he's braindead? 🙂

Originally posted by Dark Urizen
Yes, i do. Do you have a way of explaining how he can find and take out Xavier before he's braindead? 🙂

Shielded by Kyle of course. 😄

Think of it this way...

If someone pointed a gun at Xavier and pulled the trigger, would he be able to mind-control someone before the bullet reached him?

No.

The Flash is between 500,000 and a million times faster than that bullet.

Flash could land a thousand punches on each telepath before any of the three could think one thought.

🙂

Originally posted by ZephroCarnelian
Think of it this way...

If someone pointed a gun at Xavier and pulled the trigger, would he be able to mind-control someone before the bullet reached him?

No.

The Flash is between 500,000 and a million times faster than that bullet.

Flash could land a thousand punches on each telepath before any of the three could think one thought.

🙂

a powerful bullet can travel at 1100 feet per second or 750 miles per hour (approx speed of sound)

flash moves at teh speed of light or

669,600,000 miles per hour vs 750 miles per hour

flash is 892,000 times faster than a bullet

prof x will be IMPed into the sun LOL

flash IMPing a man in a wheelchair

Originally posted by The Ion
Shielded by Kyle of course. 😄

Smartass. I was talking to Mr. Solid reptile or whatever 🙄

Originally posted by ZephroCarnelian
Think of it this way...

If someone pointed a gun at Xavier and pulled the trigger, would he be able to mind-control someone before the bullet reached him?

No.

The Flash is between 500,000 and a million times faster than that bullet.

Flash could land a thousand punches on each telepath before any of the three could think one thought.

🙂

Think of it this way:

Can Flash find a hidden person that can be anywhere on the planet before that person thinks "stop"? Of course, you do realize that as a telepath his thinking is exponentially faster than normal humans. Of course, you do realize that (taking your example into account) he could make the person have a seizure before he pulled the trigger 😄 .

FYI:
bullet speed = 1.500 mph

1.500 x 500.000 = 750.000.000 mph

speed of light = 28.800.000 mph

Your "lowest" Flash speed seems to be 26 x lightspeed.

So now Flash at his lowest moves at 26 x lightspeed eh? 😆

Originally posted by Solidus Snake
a powerful bullet can travel at 1100 feet per second or 750 miles per hour (approx speed of sound)

flash moves at teh speed of light or

669,600,000 miles per hour vs 750 miles per hour

flash is 892,000 times faster than a bullet

prof x will be IMPed into the sun LOL

flash IMPing a man in a wheelchair

1500 mph to be more exact.

and the speed you just mentioned is the speed of light IN A VACUUM. Not quite the same 😉