Originally posted by brainchild81
Can't she simply recreate the universe w/no JLA? I've seen her do this stuff before.
Morrison's Phoenix could. But Marvel did a 180 and said that it never happened. Which is why Scarlet Witch whooped the Phoenix and sent her back to the White Hot Room. Phoenix is no longer part of God but just a cosmic force slightly above herald level.
The editorial team basically ravaged and destroyed Morrison's work on the X-Men. The only thing that survives is Scott and Emma's relationship. But they'll probably destroy that too. We're clearly going back to the convuluted stories of the 90s. 😘
Marvel didn't say that HTC didn't happen. It's a possible future. It obviously happened, because Scott and Emma are running the institute. Regardless, before Jean even went full-fledged Phoenix in Morrison's run, she was still an omega TP/TK: "If I can think it, it's possible."
There's nothing in the handbook to suggest that Phoenix is slightly above herald. And if we're going to go with what these characters "ultimate" abilities are, then the uber abilities of Jean, Cable, and Magneto can't be discarded. Before Morrison's run Jean said "No shields, natural or artificial, can stand against Phoenix." That's proven to be fairly true. She got through Juggs and Mags helmets as Jean.
If Magneto, Jean and Cable formed shield around the X-Team, I doubt very much is going to get through, even if it's Flash and JLA.
Originally posted by Draco69You're overglorifying a plot device. She needed to die because she was needed elsewhere.
More like the Phoenix Force. If she can be killed by an electomagnetic pulse, than the JLA are in for an easy victory.And she seems to be heavily affected by telepathy. GS overhyped the Phoenix.
You really think that something that could devour a sun would be harmed by an electromagnetic pulse?
Hell do you think any of US would be effected by an electromagnetic pulse?
Sorry, but neither we nor she should be effected by that.
That wouldn't work. The X-Men with prep are a mighty force. But the JLA with prep (even 10 minutes with can be stretched for damn near eternity is just too damn much for the X-Men.
What's even worse? If Green Lantern wanted to, he can summon (or create) more Green Lantern rings for his teammates to wear. Hmm. That Cosmic Rod seems mighty nice. Or maybe a Mother Box or two.
They can get real cheap and just hold up the Medousa Head....
Originally posted by Draco69I think you need to go check in on the latest phoenix debates. . . don't worry, No essays as GS hasn't been participating in them. But there's alot of interesting stuff.
Morrison's Phoenix could. But Marvel did a 180 and said that it never happened. Which is why Scarlet Witch whooped the Phoenix and sent her back to the White Hot Room. Phoenix is no longer part of God but just a cosmic force slightly above herald level.
You can find it in the "Marvel hiearchy as of dec" thread. . .It's been going for quite a few pages.
Originally posted by Creshosk
You're overglorifying a plot device. She needed to die because she was needed elsewhere.You really think that something that could devour a sun would be harmed by an electromagnetic pulse?
Hell do you think any of US would be effected by an electromagnetic pulse?
Sorry, but neither we nor she should be effected by that.
Your sig is OK but your avatar is very feminine, are you a girl?
Originally posted by xmarksthespotProbably somewhere between Galactus and celestial(Rachel stalemated Galactus and could have won but was psyched out by what he said.). As we are to take them at the best of their ability it's probably a priority. 😉
In which case if destroying the JLA isn't priority in the grand scheme of things she will have very little power...