The X-men vs The JLA: Last stand of the X-men

remember one thing..this is a last stand battle. The only person on the JLA with the chutzpah to kill anyone will be WW, while Mags, Wolvie, Juggy, and to a lesser extant, Iceman and Colossus are all killers time and again

Being a killer's not very useful when you're victim is invulnerable.

😄

X-men win. But its close only due to manhunter and not flash

X-men wins this battle. They have jean/phoenix plus Professor x giving them battle plans. They also have more prep time to hook up the danger room, if they are fighting there.

no phoenix in Xmen battles its not fair. At least with the flash there is a small chance that he could lose. and MM could just block telepathy from Jean Grey, Cable , And Emma Frost making them inert to the battle. and take out Ice Man and Juggernaut 90% of the JLA could take out most of the X-men in this line up by themselves.

Originally posted by Metalmanx
Dammnit. Stop putting Flash in with the JLA. No X-men team can come ANYWHERE NEAR to stopping Flash.

Flash could literally kill them all, except for Juggernaut, Colossus, and Iceman before the rest knew what happened. The others are taken care of by the rest of the JLA, though Juggernaut will be the only one standing. He loses by default cuz he wouldn't be able to ever touch any of the JLA, since they've all been blessed with super speed.

If Pheonix is there, then the X-men win. Otherwise, Flash basically wins for the JLA.

Icemans gonna be taken out? if he himself can take out MM while being mentally protected, no one else can touch him in his water vapor form.....no one will know where he went...or...hehehe he takes out MM lets Superman "incinerate" him while he actually becomes wateer vapor so everyone thinks he's dead then takes them all out... 😈

God I love when people make threads even I can post in............JLA wins................giving them prep only seals the deal...........why are people arguing over the flash..........there are three other people who are up there and can and will do the same thing...........x-men lose regardless

Im not argueing that the JLA doest win the majority of the time....im just trying to think of ways that the X-men COULD win...every now and then....😈

Originally posted by Blair Wind
Icemans gonna be taken out? if he himself can take out MM while being mentally protected, no one else can touch him in his water vapor form.....no one will know where he went...or...hehehe he takes out MM lets Superman "incinerate" him while he actually becomes wateer vapor so everyone thinks he's dead then takes them all out... 😈

Can't Flash just run around him really fast and make an whirlwind that puts him in the space?

Originally posted by DarkCrawler
Can't Flash just run around him really fast and make an whirlwind that puts him in the space?

I agree he COULD (but then theres also speculation as to wheather iceman couls just "teleport" out of the immediate vicinity through water vapor or just inhabit flash himself)....if he coud see him....flash or anyone else for that matter wouldnt know that iceman was still alive.... 😈 I agree that there are JLA members that could beat him (flash, GL, MM) but if he takes out the telepath and then lets someone "beat" him, he has a tactical advantage that
1) he cant really be beaten physically
2) he can be water vapor and more so than even the Invisible women be undetected and invisible
3) have complete control over moleculer motion....he is basically the opposite of the flash in that regard, that while the flash basically speeds things up directly related to him and anything touching him, Iceman can slow things down anywhere around him, and no one has really determined a distance to how far his control can cover..... 😈
4) can inhabit the bodies of and destroy from the inside out (if he doesnt just do a big "flash freeze" [molecular shut down]) any of the JLA members since they also have water in them....(not so sure about john body makeup tho, but he needs to be taken out first for any of this to work in the first place)

If this was just a random fight I'd give it to the JLA 8-9/10 but the key is prep time.All the x-men do is mind sheild Iceman and he instanly takes out everyone except maybe the Flash MM or supes(MM and supes because I'm not to sure about the pysiology and flash because he can't be locked onto) and then the rest go down when they get into his absolute zero zone and either are stopped dead in their tracks(supes and MM) or are slowed down to a level where he can keep up with the flash.Without telepathy they can't hurt Iceman. With prep x-men 8/10

Flash and Iceman are the deciding factors. If you remove one, the team of the other will win.

Originally posted by waterboy

The X-Men :
Magneto
Classic Juggernaut
Cable
Colosus
Emma Frost
Ice Man
Wolverine
Jean Grey

vs

The JLA :
Green Lantern,Kyle
Superman
Wonder Woman
Manhunter
Flash
Aquaman
Batman
Green Arrow

Who wins..No prep

A lot of those people on X-Men have shields...that will increase their durability..

Magneto has a shield
Juggs has a shield, when its up he's resitant to physical harm.
Cable has an impenetrable shield
Colossus provided he doesn't get knocked out is very durable
Emma Frost is diamond hard, and can equally use TP to protect all the members
Jean Grey can also use TP to shield all the members
Ice Man cannot be destroyed
Well, Logan is pretty much dead.

This is a very formidable X squad.

Not to mention the Prof working from Cerebro screwing with everyones minds.

I say it could go 50/50

Originally posted by GODSCRIBE
A lot of those people on X-Men have shields...that will increase their durability..

Magneto has a shield
Juggs has a shield, when its up he's resitant to physical harm.
Cable has an impenetrable shield
Colossus provided he doesn't get knocked out is very durable
Emma Frost is diamond hard, and can equally use TP to protect all the members
Jean Grey can also use TP to shield all the members
Ice Man cannot be destroyed
Well, Logan is pretty much dead.

This is a very formidable X squad.

Not to mention the Prof working from Cerebro screwing with everyones minds.

I say it could go 50/50

*sigh*

Flash lends speed to his teammates making them all Flashes. Prep-time is extended to relative YEARS because they're thinking so damn fast. Green Lantern uses his ring to analyze the mutants and finds a way to neutralize their powers with his ring by turning of their mutant genome. Green Lantern than uses his ring to funnel insane amounts of solar energy into Superman, making him near Prime-level. Wonder Woman has the Invisible Plane make them all invisible in every sense of the word making them not only invisible to sight, but to energy scans, telepathy and any other means. Wonder Woman also makes the Invisible Plane transform into the Wonder Dome, a flying castle of destruction. She also takes out the Medousa Head. Green Lantern uses his ring to create even more rings for his teammates.

CURBSTOMP.

Telepathy can't be used to protect one physically...telekinesis can.

Yeak TK, my bad.

Originally posted by Draco69
*sigh*

Flash lends speed to his teammates making them all Flashes. Prep-time is extended to relative YEARS because they're thinking so damn fast. Green Lantern uses his ring to analyze the mutants and finds a way to neutralize their powers with his ring by turning of their mutant genome. Green Lantern than uses his ring to funnel insane amounts of solar energy into Superman, making him near Prime-level. Wonder Woman has the Invisible Plane make them all invisible in every sense of the word making them not only invisible to sight, but to energy scans, telepathy and any other means. Wonder Woman also makes the Invisible Plane transform into the Wonder Dome, a flying castle of destruction. She also takes out the Medousa Head. Green Lantern uses his ring to create even more rings for his teammates.

CURBSTOMP.

Xavier psychically links his mind, jeans mind, cable's mind and emma's mind with cerebro and mind wipes the entire JLA. end of.

Im thinking GL shouldnt take their mutation away...its not a disease, but how their DNA is formulated. No one would be able to know Iceman was mist...thats the ONLY defense I can even think of, JLA should take this though

Originally posted by Blair Wind
Im thinking GL shouldnt take their mutation away...its not a disease, but how their DNA is formulated. No one would be able to know Iceman was mist...thats the ONLY defense I can even think of, JLA should take this though

Neither should a power nullifier....or any other countless techs that have made mutants powerless.

Green Lantern can just scan their DNA code with his ring. Find the genome that makes mutants mutants. And use the A.I. to build something capable of rendering them powerless.

They would know Iceman is mist because the scanning of Iceman would give them all they need to know of him.

Not to mention Superman's microscopic vision will see him or Diana's Eyes of Pallas.

GL can just compress the mist with his ring into a green bubble and just whip into the Sun.

Originally posted by GODSCRIBE
Xavier psychically links his mind, jeans mind, cable's mind and emma's mind with cerebro and mind wipes the entire JLA. end of.

Before Flash can take them out? Not a chance.