Originally posted by Draco69
That wouldn't work. The X-Men with prep are a mighty force. But the JLA with prep (even 10 minutes with can be stretched for damn near eternity is just too damn much for the X-Men.What's even worse? If Green Lantern wanted to, he can summon (or create) more Green Lantern rings for his teammates to wear. Hmm. That Cosmic Rod seems mighty nice. Or maybe a Mother Box or two.
They can get real cheap and just hold up the Medousa Head....
Assuming they could properly use the rings. It would be speculation about if they could or to what extent, but Green Arrow for instance could barely use his entire will power to create an arrow 🙄
Originally posted by Dark Urizen
Assuming they could properly use the rings. It would be speculation about if they could or to what extent, but Green Arrow for instance could barely use his entire will power to create an arrow 🙄
Actually they HAVE used rings before during a "crisis" with the Manhunters during a Green Lantern/JLA storyline in the late 80s. First mission of Wonder Woman with the JLA too! 🙂
I think I'm going to go with the JLA on this one,
Say it's like (9:00 am on a specific day and the batle takes place at 9:10 on that day, thus the 10 minutes of prep.)
Flash can run them back in time and basically have unlimited prep, as each time it gets close to time to battle(9:10 on the specific day) he can run them into the past. and as soon as they are ready. . . well they'll probably be ready and able to take out each and everyone of the X-men. Including phoenix. . .
Originally posted by CreshoskMaybe they'll just stab her a few times and trap her in ice... it worked in Endsong...
I think I'm going to go with the JLA on this one,Say it's like (9:00 am on a specific day and the batle takes place at 9:10 on that day, thus the 10 minutes of prep.)
Flash can run them back in time and basically have unlimited prep, as each time it gets close to time to battle(9:10 on the specific day) he can run them into the past. and as soon as they are ready. . . well they'll probably be ready and able to take out each and everyone of the X-men. Including phoenix. . .
Originally posted by Draco69
Not THE crisis. Just a intergalactic war that required everyone to get involved for some reason.
Hmmm.......yeah........feeling skeptical......
Originally posted by The Ion
Superman has used a GL ring more than once. Batman will apparently be using a power ring in GL #9 so thats 3 Lanterns right there.
Remember the "who should be able to use a GL ring" thread a while back? I still say what i did then. Batman would be a terrible option IMO, but hey, the writers do as they please right?
I don't think Phoenix' power is like the Spectre's at all. The only time Jean hasn't been able to access as much as she's wanted is because she subconsciously held back and didn't want to give herself in totally. She still remembers what happened last time. And seeing how she has unlimited TP and TK as Jean...Besides, Jean's never died unless she's wanted to.
Don't get me wrong, with all the S*** I talk about J'onn, I still like him and think he has a lot of power. I just think the claims that he is Xavier's equal/superior are kind of far-fetched and mainly made due to them both being the "top" psys of their respective universe, not out of feats, performance, and skill.
Now, Magento IS a threat, IMO if Superman and Flash weren't there he could wreck the rest himself. J'onn, Arthur, Batman, Diana's armor/bracelets and GL's ring are all liabilities with him around.
Now, say what you want but an Emma/Cable or Jean/Cable would both be superior to J'onn and Cain, Iceman and Colossus can keep Superman busy long enough for Magneto, Logan and psys to play clean up.
Teamwork is the ONLY advantage the JLA has here, but if they match up in solo fights, its gonna wind up being Superman vs. like 3-4 people as IMO Superman can beat/stalemate anyone here, but I can't say the same for his team. Any combination of Magneto and another heavy hitter would beat him IMO.
Originally posted by Malo
Don't get me wrong, with all the S*** I talk about J'onn, I still like him and think he has a lot of power. I just think the claims that he is Xavier's equal/superior are kind of far-fetched and mainly made due to them both being the "top" psys of their respective universe, not out of feats, performance, and skill.
Actually, Hector Hammond is the top psy in the DC Universe. And don't Isee why you might consider J'onn not superior to Charles when his feats of psy clearly surpass Charles.
Originally posted by Malo
Now, Magento IS a threat, IMO if Superman and Flash weren't there he could wreck the rest himself. J'onn, Arthur, Batman, Diana's armor/bracelets and GL's ring are all liabilities with him around.
You EXTREMELY underrating Green Lantern. GL regularly faces a magnetic opponent. And the ring never falls off...
You're uninformed about Green Lantern. Green Lantern can just scan the mutants with the ring. And use the ring to turn off their mutant genome. It can do ANYTHING.
Originally posted by Malo
Now, say what you want but an Emma/Cable or Jean/Cable would both be superior to J'onn and Cain, Iceman and Colossus can keep Superman busy long enough for Magneto, Logan and psys to play clean up.
J'onn has several thousand years of experience. Facing countless uber-telepaths. His telepathy is so damned strong he once reduced Despero to fetus. LITERALLY.
Colossus will not keep Superman busy. Heat Vision. He's a metal puddle. His heat vision is as hot as 100 suns. Literally.
You're also underestimating a key element: SPEED. Telepathy and TK rely on SPEED. Several sublight/faster than light opponents is not a good thing for a team mostly comprised of telepaths.
Originally posted by Malo
Teamwork is the ONLY advantage the JLA has here, but if they match up in solo fights,
And SPEED. And an omniscent ring that can create even MORE omniscent rings. And Lansarian technology. And.....
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Originally posted by Malo
ts gonna wind up being Superman vs. like 3-4 people as IMO Superman can beat/stalemate anyone here, but I can't say the same for his team. Any combination of Magneto and another heavy hitter would beat him IMO.
No offense, but you really need to read up on the JLA. You're generalizing that Superman is the most powerful on the JLA when in actuality he's around number 5.
should really take GL and flash out of this match up. However seening as that both GL and Flash get their buts kicked by charters that they really shouldn't have anykind of problem with (deathstroke). The X-men have a big chance here. If GL and Flash are as stupid in this match up as they were in Identy crisis then they're dead.
ok Ima work on the basis that the ring cant (at least for this fight) turn off their powers....now, if they all have ten minutes prep, this is the way I see....JLA is the favored lot and I can see them winning a majority of the time...but if X-men played it smart i could see them pulling off a win.....in those ten minutes Mags takes control, telling the telepaths to create mental sheilds for iceman while he himself covers them in one of his magnetic sheilds....cept for iceman...(who happens to be my secret weapon).....iceman has turned into water vapor before the fight, and since no one can see him in this state (not even superman, i mean he literally transforms into water vapor, not some substitute). Fight starts, Flash, who by the way SHOULD always dominate, has been taken out by DS, starts pummeling who ever he sees first....iceman then seeing his friends get beaten he does an omnidirectional flash freeze (stop all molecular motion attacking the very persons molcules not just around them)....to everyone.....thats it....iceman wins the day....
Originally posted by jasofisc
should really take GL and flash out of this match up. However seening as that both GL and Flash get their buts kicked by charters that they really shouldn't have anykind of problem with (deathstroke). The X-men have a big chance here. If GL and Flash are as stupid in this match up as they were in Identy crisis then they're dead.
Originally posted by Blair Wind
ok Ima work on the basis that the ring cant (at least for this fight) turn off their powers....now, if they all have ten minutes prep, this is the way I see....JLA is the favored lot and I can see them winning a majority of the time...but if X-men played it smart i could see them pulling off a win.....in those ten minutes Mags takes control, telling the telepaths to create mental sheilds for iceman while he himself covers them in one of his magnetic sheilds....cept for iceman...(who happens to be my secret weapon).....iceman has turned into water vapor before the fight, and since no one can see him in this state (not even superman, i mean he literally transforms into water vapor, not some substitute). Fight starts, Flash, who by the way SHOULD always dominate, has been taken out by DS, starts pummeling who ever he sees first....iceman then seeing his friends get beaten he does an omnidirectional flash freeze (stop all molecular motion attacking the very persons molcules not just around them)....to everyone.....thats it....iceman wins the day....
I realize that the characters need to operate to the best of their ability, I was just trying to make a case for the x-men if the JLA have flash and green lantern, because with them at their best of their ability the x-men are dead. From pure stats current GL (isn't he like sky father level right now or above) and flash could take JLA and x-men by themselves
Dammnit. Stop putting Flash in with the JLA. No X-men team can come ANYWHERE NEAR to stopping Flash.
Flash could literally kill them all, except for Juggernaut, Colossus, and Iceman before the rest knew what happened. The others are taken care of by the rest of the JLA, though Juggernaut will be the only one standing. He loses by default cuz he wouldn't be able to ever touch any of the JLA, since they've all been blessed with super speed.
If Pheonix is there, then the X-men win. Otherwise, Flash basically wins for the JLA.