Originally posted by godking
Maybe not fry his brain but do something similar with his heat vision.And you are correct in that Superman does not hold back when facing robots.
Heat vision isn't going to work. The hottest star couldn't melt adamantium, and human torch already used heat against Ultron. He's like Doomsday, he evolves and you aren't going to beat him the same way twice.
Originally posted by OdekahnHe does not have to melt the adamantium outer shell . Supermans heat vision is precise enough to give someone a lobotomy without them knowing it. He could use his heat vision to melt Ultrons internal components from a distance if he wants to. Superman is versatile and smart enough to win a vast majority. Unless Ultron can create kryptonite of use magic a Superman taking him seriously has way to many options to beat him.
Heat vision isn't going to work. The hottest star couldn't melt adamantium, and human torch already used heat against Ultron. He's like Doomsday, he evolves and you aren't going to beat him the same way twice.
Originally posted by godking
He does not have to melt the adamantium outer shell . Supermans heat vision is precise enough to give someone a lobotomy without them knowing it. He could use his heat vision to melt Ultrons internal components from a distance if he wants to. Superman is versatile and smart enough to win a vast majority. Unless Ultron can create kryptonite of use magic a Superman taking him seriously has way to many options to beat him.
1. You are assuming flesh and adamantium have the same density.
2. This has already happened to Ultron, he's evolved since then.
3. His internal molecular rearranger will repair any damage he sustains.
Sounds an awful lot like a hyperbole and wishful thinking on your part.
Btw, I found the panel where the Ultron with molecular rearranger was destroyed. Couldn't find the whole page though, just a single panel:
Originally posted by Magnon
Sounds an awful lot like a hyperbole and wishful thinking on your part.Btw, I found the panel where the Ultron with molecular rearranger was destroyed. Couldn't find the whole page though, just a single panel:
It's not wishful thinking. It's how the character works. It's been stated many times in the past that eventually Ultron would evolve to the point of being able to take over Marvel Earth. Enter Age of Ultron.
Anyone with common sense would keep something good and improve upon it when performing an upgrade and protect themselves from any prior weaknesses exposed. Ultron is intelligent enough to know that.
Originally posted by Odekahn
It's not wishful thinking. It's how the character works. It's been stated many times in the past that eventually Ultron would evolve to the point of being able to take over Marvel Earth. Enter Age of Ultron.Anyone with common sense would keep something good and improve upon it when performing an upgrade and protect themselves from any prior weaknesses exposed. Ultron is intelligent enough to know that.
But that is exactly the hyperbole you're making. Just because it's been said that he could eventually evolve to the point of being able to take over the Marvel Earth, you are assuming that he has a Doomsday/Nimrod-like ability to become immune to any attack he has been defeated with in the past. But that is of course not true; it is not a part of his power set. Sure, he upgrades himself, much like Iron Man and the likes do... but that doesn't equate him becoming immune to attacks that have previously affected him.
Originally posted by Magnon
But that is exactly the hyperbole you're making. Just because it's been said that he could eventually evolve to the point of being able to take over the Marvel Earth, you are assuming that he has a Doomsday/Nimrod-like ability to become immune to any attack he has been defeated with in the past. But that is of course not true; it is not a part of his power set. Sure, he upgrades himself, much like Iron Man and the likes do... but that doesn't equate him becoming immune to attacks that have previously affected him.
But don't you think it would be common sense to protect yourself from the very thing that got you defeated last time? Ultron is more intelligent than any human. And any human with common sense would think to do that.
Can you show me Ultron being beaten twice in the same way?
Originally posted by MagnonEvery Ultron made of adamantium has a molecular rearranger. It's required for an adamantium chassis. Non-adamantium Ultron's may or may not have used molecular arrangers to instantly repair battle damage ala Cyborg Superman.
What I mean is that Ultron likely doesn't have the molecular rearranger any more.