Superman vs Ultron

Started by Rao Kal El8 pages

^ last time I check Ultron has no brain, he is an AI.

Also, I just remember that Superman does not holds back with robots.

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
^ last time I check Ultron has no brain, he is an AI.

Also, I just remember that Superman does not holds back with robots.

Maybe not fry his brain but do something similar with his heat vision.

And you are correct in that Superman does not hold back when facing robots.

Originally posted by godking
Maybe not fry his brain but do something similar with his heat vision.

And you are correct in that Superman does not hold back when facing robots.

Heat vision isn't going to work. The hottest star couldn't melt adamantium, and human torch already used heat against Ultron. He's like Doomsday, he evolves and you aren't going to beat him the same way twice.

Superman wins

Originally posted by snowdragon
Superman wins

How?

Originally posted by Odekahn
Heat vision isn't going to work. The hottest star couldn't melt adamantium, and human torch already used heat against Ultron. He's like Doomsday, he evolves and you aren't going to beat him the same way twice.
He does not have to melt the adamantium outer shell . Supermans heat vision is precise enough to give someone a lobotomy without them knowing it. He could use his heat vision to melt Ultrons internal components from a distance if he wants to. Superman is versatile and smart enough to win a vast majority. Unless Ultron can create kryptonite of use magic a Superman taking him seriously has way to many options to beat him.

Superman winning a vast majority on Ultron is...suspect to say it lightly.

Originally posted by godking
He does not have to melt the adamantium outer shell . Supermans heat vision is precise enough to give someone a lobotomy without them knowing it. He could use his heat vision to melt Ultrons internal components from a distance if he wants to. Superman is versatile and smart enough to win a vast majority. Unless Ultron can create kryptonite of use magic a Superman taking him seriously has way to many options to beat him.

1. You are assuming flesh and adamantium have the same density.

2. This has already happened to Ultron, he's evolved since then.

3. His internal molecular rearranger will repair any damage he sustains.

Ultron's molecular rearranger was destroyed along with his original adamantium body by Thor using a vibranium weapon.

Originally posted by Magnon
Ultron's molecular rearranger was destroyed along with his original adamantium body by Thor using a vibranium weapon.

Thor w/ Vibranium Weapon =/= Superman's Heat Vision.

But regardless, do you have a scan you could link?

What I mean is that Ultron likely doesn't have the molecular rearranger any more.

Originally posted by Magnon
What I mean is that Ultron likely doesn't have the molecular rearranger any more.

If he doesn't have it, then he has something better. He evolves and upgrades himself each time he comes back.

Sounds an awful lot like a hyperbole and wishful thinking on your part.

Btw, I found the panel where the Ultron with molecular rearranger was destroyed. Couldn't find the whole page though, just a single panel:

Ultron destroyed

Originally posted by Magnon
Sounds an awful lot like a hyperbole and wishful thinking on your part.

Btw, I found the panel where the Ultron with molecular rearranger was destroyed. Couldn't find the whole page though, just a single panel:

Ultron destroyed

It's not wishful thinking. It's how the character works. It's been stated many times in the past that eventually Ultron would evolve to the point of being able to take over Marvel Earth. Enter Age of Ultron.

Anyone with common sense would keep something good and improve upon it when performing an upgrade and protect themselves from any prior weaknesses exposed. Ultron is intelligent enough to know that.

Originally posted by Odekahn
It's not wishful thinking. It's how the character works. It's been stated many times in the past that eventually Ultron would evolve to the point of being able to take over Marvel Earth. Enter Age of Ultron.

Anyone with common sense would keep something good and improve upon it when performing an upgrade and protect themselves from any prior weaknesses exposed. Ultron is intelligent enough to know that.

But that is exactly the hyperbole you're making. Just because it's been said that he could eventually evolve to the point of being able to take over the Marvel Earth, you are assuming that he has a Doomsday/Nimrod-like ability to become immune to any attack he has been defeated with in the past. But that is of course not true; it is not a part of his power set. Sure, he upgrades himself, much like Iron Man and the likes do... but that doesn't equate him becoming immune to attacks that have previously affected him.

Originally posted by Magnon
But that is exactly the hyperbole you're making. Just because it's been said that he could eventually evolve to the point of being able to take over the Marvel Earth, you are assuming that he has a Doomsday/Nimrod-like ability to become immune to any attack he has been defeated with in the past. But that is of course not true; it is not a part of his power set. Sure, he upgrades himself, much like Iron Man and the likes do... but that doesn't equate him becoming immune to attacks that have previously affected him.

But don't you think it would be common sense to protect yourself from the very thing that got you defeated last time? Ultron is more intelligent than any human. And any human with common sense would think to do that.

Can you show me Ultron being beaten twice in the same way?

Originally posted by ODG
Most powerful ones would sh1t stomp. The more powerful ones would win. The less powerful ones would lose.

Pretty much this.

Originally posted by Magnon
What I mean is that Ultron likely doesn't have the molecular rearranger any more.
Every Ultron made of adamantium has a molecular rearranger. It's required for an adamantium chassis. Non-adamantium Ultron's may or may not have used molecular arrangers to instantly repair battle damage ala Cyborg Superman.

Originally posted by Odekahn
I flipped through the entire thing and didn't find it. There is a robot that gets destroyed in the way you're talking about, but it isn't Ultron. Maybe you are misremembering?

Nope, its Ultron, I posted a link to it in my last post. 🙂