Is there a War on Christmas in the US?

Originally posted by Dagons Blade
You KNOW what I mean. Don't pull THIS one.Nice try though.

My point is is that if everyone has to pay normal price for something in America, so do Mr. and Mrs. FOB. (Fresh Off The Boat) Because you come from this country or that country entitles you to NO discounts. Yeah you have tax free money for 7 years or whatever time each state allows you, but you have no right to impose on a major store and insist that they lower prices just for YOU..NOONE, regardless of where they are from, has that right.

Where the hell is this point coming from?

Originally posted by Dagons Blade
And if MSNBC had a picture of ANN Coulter, then THAT would automatically make MSNBC a station with a political agenda?

You guys just can't accept the fact that the Right has opinions on things too, can you? And I personally feel that Ms. Coulter is a bit out there, and more suited for the left than the right, and even I can't stand her but one picture of her dosen't make the entire website a diseased one.

you just dont get it. you dont know the difference between a credible news source and an opinion blog. now THAT is a major problem with america. never mind foreigners trying to exchange obnoxios amounts of currency. time to set our priorities straight junior 🙄

Originally posted by PVS

next time try reading other people's posts instead of just gawking over mine, and you might find the proof you need. the only one committing the cowardly act of presenting faux news and putting words in other peoples mouths seems to be you. thank you for destroying a good discussion so we can witness you having a 3rd degree tantrum 😬

Dude, whose throwing tantrums? You systematically deny and and every thing I say..and ou have yet to prove to me that all the shit theleft says about the right is true too. I've asked you several times you turn around and prove to me that theleftist intentions were wrong, and you turn around and give me this shit about non credible evidence when the left is also ful of it.

Oh and if you mean destroying the discussion because I ruined your plans for one sided monopoly of it, then you're welcome. Merry Christmas,mother****er.

Originally posted by PVS
you have got to be kidding me 😂 you and deano should get together and go out and have a beer.

With you as bartender I have no doubt that a considerable amount of cyanide would find it's way into the glasses before they reach us.

Originally posted by PVS
should i in turn post links to al franken's site? i said CREDIBLE NEWS not right wing propaganda. i was even so gracious as to offer that you submit something from foxnews, but it seems even their journalists are not so stupid as to just make shit up in the same manner that oreilly has.

And if it was MSNBC or another credible news source, somehow that credibility woud fade if mention of someone or something you hated was on it's front page. You look for excuses at all angles to legitimize your allegations that everyone lies.

Originally posted by KharmaDog
Where the hell is this point coming from?

In reply to Botankus saying that she's seen people of ALL races try to talk people down on prices. It's a few pages back. And I am harmonizing by saying that she's right,a nd that sometimes regardless of personal opinion on how much somehitng should cost, we ALL have to pay the tag price.

Originally posted by Dagons Blade
In reply to Botankus saying that she's seen people of ALL races try to talk people down on prices. It's a few pages back. And I am harmonizing by saying that she's right,a nd that sometimes regardless of personal opinion on how much somehitng should cost, we ALL have to pay the tag price.

First of all, Botankus is a guy.

Second of all, you might want to try to make points without calling people a motherf*cker, resorting to racist comments or escalating a situation through either moot posts or posts with random meanings.

Originally posted by Dagons Blade
Dude, whose throwing tantrums? You systematically deny and and every thing I say..and ou have yet to prove to me that all the shit theleft says about the right is true too. I've asked you several times you turn around and prove to me that theleftist intentions were wrong, and you turn around and give me this shit about non credible evidence when the left is also ful of it.

you dont understand. i am not saying the "leftist" intentions are right or wrong. im saying there are no leftist intentions. its bullshit and doesnt exist, and the only way you have to debate is to choose a side in this imaginary war and say "WE'RE RIGHT!!!!!! YOU'RE WRONG!!!!!!" based on sensationalist media lies and urban myth. its a farse and oreilly is full of shit (and thus by extention, you)

Originally posted by Dagons Blade
And if it was MSNBC or another credible news source, somehow that credibility woud fade if mention of someone or something you hated was on it's front page. You look for excuses at all angles to legitimize your allegations that everyone lies.

a credible news source does not parade the opinions of others as headlines. they simply report world events. fox many times will put a bias spin, as im sure msnbc, and cnn may sneak some in as well. point is, they exist to report the news. the sights you post exist to promote a one-sided opinion. the same as if i posted a michael moore article as "proof"

but you know that, dont you? you know that the point is solid and you are clearly in the wrong. but maybe if you continue your tyrade and give us more literary diarrhea_, we may overlook it.

Originally posted by PVS
you dont understand. i am not saying the "leftist" intentions are right or wrong. im saying there are no leftist intentions. its bullshit and doesnt exist, and the only way you have to debate is to choose a side in this imaginary war and say "WE'RE RIGHT!!!!!! YOU'RE WRONG!!!!!!" based on sensationalist media lies and urban myth. its a farse and oreilly is full of shit (and thus by extention, you)

Dude, chill. Can you deny that people who disagree with our traditions aren't using the 1st Amendment to silence their opponents? This whole thing amounts to both sides wanting their way, with one side in constant refusal of the fact that they are preaching tolearance for religion, but yet attacking Christianity daily under the guise of "THEIR" free speech and *THEIR* right to religion. It comes down to "MY" religion..."MY" right.

And regardless of the left, the liberal media, or little Johnny Atheists, our rights and traditions were here first,and if you DON'T like the words Christmas, or Jesus, then too bad.

And you still haven't proved to me that you yourself aren't scared, with your little comment about disembowelling liberals while Christmas songs are being sung...

Originally posted by PVS
a credible news source does not parade the opinions of others as headlines. they simply report world events. fox many times will put a bias spin, as im sure msnbc, and cnn may sneak some in as well. point is, they exist to report the news. the sights you post exist to promote a one-sided opinion. the same as if i posted a michael moore article as "proof"

Oh I see, personal opinions aren't allowed? Well gee golly gosh, Wally. Tell that to the politicians who take up the causes of groups like the ACLU,Atheists, and other groups who kowtow to personal opinions and their flawless integration into the political reasoning of why*THIS* shouldn't exist, or *THAT* shouldn't exist, all in return for a nice little campaign donation the next time we're scheduled to elect (more like APPOINT) our next round of "chosen" leaders.

Tell me that personal opinions don't play parts on BOTH sides ofthe issues? But yet Republicans are the only ones who use them, yeah right.

but you know that, dont you? you know that the point is solid and you are clearly in the wrong. but maybe if you continue your tyrade and give us more literary diarrhea_, we may overlook it. [/B][/QUOTE]

Originally posted by KharmaDog
First of all, Botankus is a guy.

And for all those out there who don't know, I'm not a she-male, either.

In my sig, that's me on the left.

im through arguing with you. you just repeat points which were debunked already. repeating bullshit over and over does not make it become truth, dispite what you've learned from orielly.

there is no war on christmas, and the only thing killing the spirit of
christmas is fear, paranoia, racism, and the demagogs who use them
to make people like you dance on the end of their strings.

Originally posted by botankus
And for all those out there who don't know, I'm not a she-male, either.

In my sig, that's me on the left.

How do you type?

Originally posted by Dagons Blade
And regardless of the left, the liberal media, or little Johnny Atheists, our rights and traditions were here first,and if you DON'T like the words Christmas, or Jesus, then too bad.

You might want to look up the "myth of the liberal media thread" as it is a subject that has been discussed to death, yet people seem still to adhere to that misconception.

Originally posted by botankus
In my sig, that's me on the left.

why the long face? *RIMSHOT*

Originally posted by botankus
And for all those out there who don't know, I'm not a she-male, either.

Or post op transexual

oh boy dagon's been typing his post for quite some time now.

my sixth sense tells me we are about to be bombed once again with a whole lot of pointless ranting.

"YOU LEFTIES BLAH BLAH BLAH!!!! YOU HATE JESUS BLAH BLAH BLAH!!! YOU HATE FREEDOM OF SPEECH BLAH BLAH BLAH!!!! YOU EAT BABIES!!!!!" and on and on and on

here it comes..........

:edit: awww he just left 🙁 he must have dumped like 10 paragraphs and gave up. i see our christmas blessing came early 🙂

what will we ever do but get back to the topic?

so, can rational conservatives give your views on this?
i notice a complete silence from those on the right who normally
put a clear thought pattern behind their decisions. stand up
and be heard. feceman keeps popping in here, but never with
an opinion. so lets have it then

Sorry, no Dagon post yet...

Originally posted by Shakyamunison
How do you type?

Originally posted by PVS
im through arguing with you. you just repeat points which were debunked already. repeating bullshit over and over does not make it become truth, dispite what you've learned from orielly.

there is no war on christmas, and the only thing killing the spirit of
christmas is fear, paranoia, racism, and the demagogs who use them
to make people like you dance on the end of their strings.

And you haven't proven to me that YOUR repeated allegations of Christians executing liberals and putting their entrails on poles while Christmas songs are sung is true either. Just because YOU say that that's the case dosen't make it so, despite what you've learned from Moore and the ACLU and the Atheists.

Through with ME? Yeah and I'M through with people like YOU...who whine, ***** and moan about religious tolerance in the face of your ZERO tolerance for Christians, and who use our Constitution to try to nail us with your little "well intentioned" concerns for fairness for everyone when the only people it benefits are people like YOU..you use the 1st Amendment to silence our traditions and our way of life and then piss yourself when we stand up to you.

Killing the spirit? Hardly. I'm going to rejoice knowing that my right to speak personally,and hang decorations on my house and my right to wish others around me merry Christmas w\o interference from the ACLU still remains. Got a problem with that, take it up with the 1st Amendment.

And I see where you were trying to nail me-asking me to provide
non partisan unbiased individual news stories. You KNOW that there
are only a few major news networks. There ARE no little independent news sources available on TV anymore, it'a all BIGWIGS like Fox and MSNBC I had one or the other to report from and you tried to bait me knowing that my choices were limited. You tried though, I'll give you THAT 🙂

You thought you had me from square one. I knew what you were doing.

Merry Christmas, Happy Holidays, or whatever you call it. I'm done here too. Next time you try to set someone up in advance, try a little harder.

Originally posted by botankus
Sorry, no Dagon post yet...

That blond honey on the right does all my typing for me.

Originally posted by Dagons Blade
And you haven't proven to me that YOUR repeated allegations of Christians executing liberals and putting their entrails on poles while Christmas songs are sung is true either. Just because YOU say that that's the case dosen't make it so, despite what you've learned from Moore and the ACLU and the Atheists.

Through with ME? Yeah and I'M through with people like YOU...who whine, ***** and moan about religious tolerance in the face of your ZERO tolerance for Christians, and who use our Constitution to try to nail us with your little "well intentioned" concerns for fairness for everyone when the only people it benefits are people like YOU..you use the 1st Amendment to silence our traditions and our way of life and then piss yourself when we stand up to you.

Killing the spirit? Hardly. I'm going to rejoice knowing that my right to speak personally,and hang decorations on my house and my right to wish others around me merry Christmas w\o interference from the ACLU still remains. Got a problem with that, take it up with the 1st Amendment.

And I see where you were trying to nail me-asking me to provide
non partisan unbiased individual news stories. You KNOW that there
are only a few major news networks. There ARE no little independent news sources available on TV anymore, it'a all BIGWIGS like Fox and MSNBC I had one or the other to report from and you tried to bait me knowing that my choices were limited. You tried though, I'll give you THAT 🙂

You thought you had me from square one. I knew what you were doing.

Merry Christmas, Happy Holidays, or whatever you call it. I'm done here too. Next time you try to set someone up in advance, try a little harder.

shit

YEAH!!!! LIBERALS KILL KITTENS TOO!!!!!!!!! GODDAMN KITTEN KILLING LIBERALS ARE RUINING CHRISTMAS!!!!!

[insert 4 paragraph rant about how i'm against killing kittens]

MERRY F****** CHRISTMAS!!!!!!

that was my impression of your debating technique. how was it? 🙂

Originally posted by PVS
shit

YEAH!!!! LIBERALS KILL KITTENS TOO!!!!!!!!! GODDAMN KITTEN KILLING LIBERALS ARE RUINING CHRISTMAS!!!!!

[insert 4 paragraph rant about how i'm against killing kittens]

MERRY F****** CHRISTMAS!!!!!!

that was my impression of you're debating technique. how was it? 🙂

Dosen't say anything about me, but shows alot about YOU.. Oh by the way stop posting in caps, there aren't enough earplugs to go around.
Temper...TEM-perrrrrrr 🙂

OMG HOLY SHIT THIS IS A MUST SEE!!!! 😱

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***Congressman John D. Dingell (MI-15) recited the following poem on the floor of the US House of Representatives concerning House Resolution 579, which expressed the sense of the House of Representatives that the symbols and traditions of Christmas should be protected. “Preserving Christmas” has been a frequent topic for conservative talk show hosts, including Fox News’s Bill O’Reilly.

Twas the week before Christmas and all through the House

No bills were passed ‘bout which Fox News could grouse;

Tax cuts for the wealthy were passed with great cheer,

So vacations in St. Barts soon would be near;

Katrina kids were nestled all snug in motel beds,

While visions of school and home danced in their heads;

In Iraq our soldiers needed supplies and a plan,

Plus nuclear weapons were being built in Iran;

Gas prices shot up, consumer confidence fell;

Americans feared we were on a fast track to…well…

Wait--- we need a distraction--- something divisive and wily;

A fabrication straight from the mouth of O’Reilly

We can pretend that Christmas is under attack

Hold a vote to save it--- then pat ourselves on the back;

Silent Night, First Noel, Away in the Manger

Wake up Congress, they’re in no danger!

This time of year we see Christmas every where we go,

From churches, to homes, to schools, and yes…even Costco;

What we have is an attempt to divide and destroy,

When this is the season to unite us with joy

At Christmas time we’re taught to unite,

We don’t need a made-up reason to fight

So on O’Reilly, on Hannity, on Coulter, and those right wing blogs;

You should just sit back, relax…have a few egg nogs!

‘Tis the holiday season: enjoy it a pinch

With all our real problems, do we honestly need another Grinch?

So to my friends and my colleagues I say with delight,

A merry Christmas to all,

and to Bill O’Reilly…Happy Holidays.