The most powerful Apprentice

Started by Tangible God9 pages

Technically it would be Anakin doing that, Vader would have been dissolved in that case.

he did carry sidious and keep moving while he was being shocked, i doubt the suit would be instantly destroyed. he could have used the force to hold himself together for the few seconds he needed, or the energy that sidious released upon death finished off his already seriously damaged suit.

he slumps just after that if i recall correctly, so that could mean he exhaused his ability to maintain himself, or that his suit gave out as a result of the explosion. in rise of darth vader it says that he can survive unassisted without the suit for a limited time and by the sounds of his breathing and his completly limp body that his suit had completley ceased to function. after that i think he basically gave up on life after all the evil hed done.

Later on(after rise) Vader is able to completely sustain himself indefinately but it requires a lot of effort. Now, he isn't going to have a lot of strangth after fighting his son and repelling the Emperors force lightning. Yeah, he probably just gave in because he had fufilled his destiny. Perhaps he purposely didn't block Sidious' lightning because he knew that once Sidious was gone his job would be finished and he knew he would never be able to go back to his old life.

yeh your right but wouldnt it be cool if vader found some special fountain of youth or a healing power stronger than bacta that could regenerate his limbs like a frog and restore his old strength letting him reach his potential, and then fight NJO luke, who would win then?

Originally posted by darthsith19
No. It says his full potential is twice that of Sidious's and that in the OT he's 80% as strong as Sidious.

No it doesn't. It says that Vader, after his injuries, can reach about 80% of Sidious's power. It then states that had the accident not occured, he would have been about twice as powerful as he was. Not twice as powerful as Sidious, but twice as powerful as he currently could be.

DS, Faunus is right on the quote, I believe.

Well Anakin's power is practically infinite and god-like had he not be mustafared so it makes little difference

No, Anakin's power is far from infinite. He could have been 60% stronger than Sidious according to Lucas.

Can you compare Anakin at 160% to the top jedi and sith ever?

Originally posted by Darth_Glentract
No, Anakin's power is far from infinite. He could have been 60% stronger than Sidious according to Lucas.

In all honesty, we have little to go on regarding Anakin's power. The quote that I refer to was said by Lucas, yes, but he's said on another occasion that had Vader reached his full potential, he would have been ten times as powerful as Sidious. All we really know is that his potential power has been greatly diminished, and that the end result is a powerful Sith Lord who is only a shadow of what he could have been.

I've heard that ten times thing before, but I've never actually seen a source. Can you tell me where to find it?

Same here. I've been trying to find it myself. It's most likely on a commentary, but I may be wrong.

Do you think if anakin full power is 10x stronger than sidious that he could beat marka ragnos?

Originally posted by braz
coulda, woulda shoulda, DIDNT! dooku lost the fight...n plus y would he throw the fight on purpose knowing hes gunna die, i know i aint goin out like that just because of what some stupid sith lord named darth sidious thinks 😠
and plus, u even admitted it, anakin had the potential or the ability to get more stronger than even sidious and yoda, so that just shows IMO that he has more power whether he reaches that point or not.....and, i thought they both ruled the galaxy 😕

What're you? Thick? He didn't know he was gonna die. After Palpy said "Kill him.", why don't you try looking at dooku's face? He was SURPRISED! *Gah* He thought he was going to be spared because he thought that being the Sepritist leader made him an exception.

Now for the topic. If we're going by current (ROTS), then Dooku is the most powerful, seeing as how he [litteraly] toyed with Anakin and Obi-Wan together on the ship, and still beat them, until he remembered that he had to throw it. But if we're going by overall, then Vader, because he killed many leftover jedi after the Purge in his suit, which has to account for something, even tho he may have had backup. There's my 2 pennies n a nickle.

Originally posted by Darth Faunus
No it doesn't. It says that Vader, after his injuries, can reach about 80% of Sidious's power. It then states that had the accident not occured, he would have been about twice as powerful as he was. Not twice as powerful as Sidious, but twice as powerful as he currently could be.

Where did you hear that? My source is Vanity Fair.

anakin at full power is stronger than any other

Originally posted by ssj3gohan007
anakin at full power is stronger than any other

Prove up or shut up.

actually i heard george lucas say that somewhere maybe on audio commentary

If Lucas said it, I would love to mercilously knock him upside his gray head for starting so many s***storms. And back then vader riding the lightning was amazing, compared to now GL has made a mockery of it, well, him and video game designers. He needs to state the facts instead of leaving it to the fans to decide, for petes sake, enough is enough, the more i watch star wars the more i think Lucas was flying by the seat of his pants for the most part,but it worked for him

Originally posted by Darth243
If Lucas said it, I would love to mercilously knock him upside his gray head for starting so many s***storms. And back then vader riding the lightning was amazing, compared to now GL has made a mockery of it, well, him and video game designers. He needs to state the facts instead of leaving it to the fans to decide, for petes sake, enough is enough, the more i watch star wars the more i think Lucas was flying by the seat of his pants for the most part,but it worked for him
whoa, that was so uninteresting i think i mighta nodded off in the middle of.........reading it.....wait there i went again my bad, what were we talking about???? oh yeah a buncha fat guys worshiping another fatguy....