Originally posted by Knowsbleed33Yeah, it is very sad.
Being that Juggernaut is back at classic power levels. He'd own this fight from start to finish. Marvel needs to revamp Wonderman. The whole sun glasses, movie star thing is lame and getting lamer
Originally posted by Thorion
There's absolutely no proof that he's been depowered. Because of a couple of low showings he's suddenly going down 10/10 to Juggernaut? The ****?! I'm giving WM the same as I'd give classic Thor against Juggs. Wonder Man, 7.5/10.
1. It doesn't matter how Thor would do against Juggernaut. Besides, the only way Thor can beat Classic Juggs is with some exotic powers from Mjolnir.
2. It's not about Simon's low showings, it's about him not being able to scratch Juggernaut.
3. Speaking of his low showings, though...Pumpkin bomb? 🤨
Originally posted by Soljer
1. It doesn't matter how Thor would do against Juggernaut. Besides, the only way Thor can beat Classic Juggs is with some exotic powers from Mjolnir.2. It's not about Simon's low showings, it's about him not being able to scratch Juggernaut.
3. Speaking of his low showings, though...Pumpkin bomb? 🤨
Yeah, that was pretty embarrassing. I've debated this on some other boards and some people think that Goblin somehow used Simons' ionic nature against him. It's purely speculation though. Simon's leagues faster, though. His flight comes in very handy too. If he engages in a brawl then he loses pretty darn quickly. But if he uses he head I can see him taking majority.
Originally posted by Thorion
Yeah, that was pretty embarrassing. I've debated this on some other boards and some people think that Goblin somehow used Simons' ionic nature against him. It's purely speculation though. Simon's leagues faster, though. His flight comes in very handy too. If he engages in a brawl then he loses pretty darn quickly. But if he uses he head I can see him taking majority.
His speed and flight are great advantages - but when it comes down to it, they'd only allow him the chance to (potentially) remove Cain from the battlefield. As far as hurting Cain - he doesn't really have a chance.
As you said, as soon as Cain gets a hold of Simon, the fight won't last very much longer.
Originally posted by Soljer
His speed and flight are great advantages - but when it comes down to it, they'd only allow him the chance to (potentially) remove Cain from the battlefield. As far as hurting Cain - he doesn't really have a chance.As you said, as soon as Cain gets a hold of Simon, the fight won't last very much longer.
Fine. You've convinced me. For now 😛. The TS didn't say no BFR, though did he? So I'll call it a stalemate. If It's a arena battle there are very few superhumans who can take Cain. If the majority of flying bricks are in a place where they can utilise their flight and superior speed, they can certainly take some wins. Cains' main advantage isn't in his strength It's in his durability so I honestly can't see how this wouldn't be an extremely close match which could go either way.
Originally posted by Thorion
No he isn't. From my limited knowledge, I really can't recall him having any extra-impressive strength feats, while WM has stalemated the likes of Hulk and Thor, overpowered Thor, lifted 50k punked Abomination..
Yes he it. Wonderman I think is at class 95 or something. Juggernaut has beaten Hulk and almost killed Thor if it wasn't for outside interference.