Originally posted by UshgarakNot the first time you have been wrong about English, whob, and yes, I am an English teacher
Nice. What exactly do you teach?
Originally posted by Ushgarak
As for the thread title- you need to look at what grammar and spelling are actually FOR. They have a purpose. If they are not being well observed in some areas, you should probably look for causes as to why those purposes are being eroded.
Indeed- would you like to volunteer anything?
Originally posted by Ya Krunk'd Floo
I also find poor grammar, spelling and punctuation lamentable, but perhaps we are engaged in a battle of futility? Modern man has developed so many technological advancements in the area of communication, that perhaps it is inevitable that the nature of our language changes as a result. Indeed, the globalisation of English as [B]the pre-eminent lanuage of choice has also undoubtedly affected the nature of the language.It is also important to point out that this is not a recent occurance; language - like life - has always evolved...
Take it away, Chaucer...
'Ye knowe eek, that in forme of speche is chaunge
With-inne a thousand yeer, and wordes tho
That hadden prys, now wonder nyce and straunge
Us thinketh hem; and yet they spake hem so,
And spedde as wel in love as men now do;
Eek for to winne love in sondry ages,
In sondry londes, sondry been usages.'(Excerpt from Book 2 of Troilus and Criseyde) [/B]
Sure. Check out the 'Oxen of the Sun' episode of Ulysses as proof.
I'm not quite sure the phenomenon of which I speak is an evolution though. I think there are deep-rooted problems involved.
Originally posted by whobdamandog
A man can generally measure his ability and overall influence over others..by the amount of people who gather against him. 😉
That sounds like someone who is trying to look on the bright side of life.
Your ability may be poor and your influence negative. Then again we could just be bored and mildly entertain by some of your more feeble personality traits. But once again, whatever gets you through the night big guy.
FIN
Originally posted by whobdamandog
Ya Flunk'd the irony of your posts illude me..
Hot knife. Butter. Through.
Youdaman!
VVD, I know what you mean, and I share the same concerns, but perhaps it is because we ain't hip and cool anymore...
'Oxen of the Sun' - and 'Ulysses' as a whole - is an incredible piece of literature. The pertinence of your reference is exceptional, but if you acknowledge the stylistic diversity of language over time periods; what are you complaining about? Maybe the current phase of Language bestiality is merely the stepping-stone towards something more aesthetic?
Who am I kidding? All those mofo lols, lmaos, urs, etc. make me sick. The users should be placed in a physical manifestation of 'The Divine Comedy's Inferno', Canto VI to be precise.
Originally posted by PVSCommas bug me worse than not using apostrophes.. 😛 ....But that bugs me too....but not really.
thats really bugs me as well when people dont use commas when typing a really long sentence because however it may seem superficial for short posts it can make wordy lengthy sentences difficult to read.😛
That's why I use lots of dots..... 😎 Those help separate my sentences also...for the handicapped.
commas commas commas, what so difficult in not using commas?
Originally posted by Ya Krunk'd Floo
Hot knife. Butter. Through.Youdaman!
VVD, I know what you mean, and I share the same concerns, but perhaps it is because we ain't hip and cool anymore...
'Oxen of the Sun' - and 'Ulysses' as a whole - is an incredible piece of literature. The pertinence of your reference is exceptional, but if you acknowledge the stylistic diversity of language over time periods; what are you complaining about? Maybe the current phase of Language bestiality is merely the stepping-stone towards something more aesthetic?
Who am I kidding? All those mofo lols, lmaos, urs, etc. make me sick. The users should be placed in a physical manifestation of 'The Divine Comedy's Inferno', Canto VI to be precise.
I'm not really referring to 'txtspeak'. Didn't Prince invent that in the 80s anyway?
I don't really think the lack of ability in communicating that is prevalent today can be deemed 'stylistic diversity'- that would be giving credit where it isn't due.
It's disingenuous to pretend otherwise than that a huge amount of people today simply cannot write properly, and in using the term 'properly' I do not mean precise, formal English.
The crux of what I am saying is this. Why- in all walks of life where writing is required- does it feel genuinely novel when someone can write without silly errors?