Galactic Empire VS Revans Sith Empire

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Nor will they have learned of that weakness for the Rebels had to steal the plans with spies.

Originally posted by Se7in
Strong military? They were defeated by a bunch of rebels and Ewoks.
A combo. of both Palpatine's mistake of underestimation, and movie necessity.

Originally posted by Se7in
Please, can someone explain where this ridiculous power of the Empire comes from. Name some of these advantages, not that I doubt they exist, but I've yet to see one, except the Death Star.
Many thousands of SD's, many more millions of lesser ships, DS's, Palp's "battle meditaion," (or w/e) The Executor, literally countless, And I Mean Countless, fighters, billions of troops galaxy-wide.

Oh yeah, I just said it, an entire of galaxy full of Imperial Forces with 4000 years of tech. on their side.

Originally posted by Tangible God
A combo. of both Palpatine's mistake of underestimation, and movie necessity.

That and a lot of unlucky events for the Imperials. It was actually stated that civil wars in the Empire did more damage to the Empire than the Rebellion. Unless someone can prove that civil war would happen again, the Empire is unstoppable.

As it turns out, Palpatine did have Battle Meditation - but so did another Force-sensative Grand Admiral present at the Battle of Endor, according to The Heir of The Empire series.

One of Sidious' other students(Joruus C'Baoth) also had control over battle meditation.

Due to Palp's intense focus on killing Luke, and because he underestimated Vader's good side, he got killed. Hence dropping his "battle meditation" and allowing the Rebels to have an easier time.

Actually one of his Grand Admirals new battle meditation and was using it at Endor in his place.

The Empire would waste Revan's forces.

The only way the Sith Empire could win is by assassinating Palpatine and/or Vader.

Even then they would probably still lose because of Thrawn. He was the only defeated because of luck for the Rebels.

Not likely.

The Emperor spent most of his time either in Imperial Center or in Byss, both of which are outrageously protected. Imperial Center is like the most secure place in the galaxy, and Byss is located within the Deep Core. None of Revan's ships could hope to get there.

Not to mention, that if by some fluke, Revan's forces did kill him, the Emperor always had clones.

As for Vader, the Empire wouldn't be beaten if he was assassinated. Then you have twelve extremely capable Grand Admirals - such as Thrawn - who either rival Revan's tactical ability, or are superior.

Revan can turn out thousands of Sith fights in a day, if you played KotOR, on the last level you see the speed the ships are manufactured, btw. Not only that, but if you play it right, you get Bastila with you, and she INVENTED battle meditation, so I think she MIGHT be a bit better at it that thrawn. In the future, also, there are no sith, but the ancient sith empire was FULL of THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS of sith.

Yeah, vader's cool. He's in a black suit and talks with a really low voice. But the suit stops him from doing the crazy amout of acrobatic moves ANY ancient sith lord could've. I think one sith could take out vader.

Sith battlecruisers are just as big as a star destroyer btw. Also, just ONE of the sith battlecruisers ERADICATED ALL LIFE ON AN ENTIRE PLANET!!!!

All in all, it'd prolly be a tie (no pun intended), but im still rooting for Revan!

lol

Wow.

First, jedi before Bastila used Battle Meditation. She did not invent it.

Second, a single IDS can make pockmarks on a planet a meter deep all the way across.

Btw is this Revan's "Empire" post KOTOR pre KOTOR 2; or the possibly Empire he could gain in the outer rim (Ancient Sith)?

Originally posted by RevanVader
Revan can turn out thousands of Sith fights in a day, if you played KotOR, on the last level you see the speed the ships are manufactured, btw. Not only that, but if you play it right, you get Bastila with you, and she INVENTED battle meditation, so I think she MIGHT be a bit better at it that thrawn. In the future, also, there are no sith, but the ancient sith empire was FULL of THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS of sith.

No, Bastlia did not invent battle meditation. Revan is possibly anywhere around Thrawn's tactical ability, Thrawn probably being the most gifted of the Grand Admirals. Still, 4,000 years of technology do stand in the way of both of them.

Yeah, vader's cool. He's in a black suit and talks with a really low voice. But the suit stops him from doing the crazy amout of acrobatic moves ANY ancient sith lord could've. I think one sith could take out vader.[B][QUOTE/]

Vader is able to be acrobatic, it only appears so because in the 70s Star Wars had not reached the maturity and growth needed for poofy little lightsaber fights thirty years later. Vader can infact, keep up with Maul (this is in a SW graphic novel).

[B][QUOTE]Sith battlecruisers are just as big as a star destroyer btw. Also, just ONE of the sith battlecruisers ERADICATED ALL LIFE ON AN ENTIRE PLANET!!!!

Yes they are as big as Star Destroyers and for the destruction of Taris I have little response, but it seems to contradict what Han says in ANH "That would have taken half the starfleet", referring to Alderaan. Bear in mind that the Leviathan only destroyed the surface of Taris.

All in all, it'd prolly be a tie (no pun intended), but im still rooting for Revan!

Sorry for ripping your post - I think I may understand and slightly agree with what your trying to say, but I just did not like the crude manner that it was presented in. And What pun?

TIE fighter.. tie... nvm

lol

Anyways, exanda I believe Han was talking about the force neccessary to obliterate the planet, not just it's surface. he also went on to say how much power it would take, suggesting that it's more than a half dozen ship's high output.

And considering that an ISD puts out enough power for a small sun, I'm pretty sure just one could do the job on its own over time.

I realise aand that was the point I was trying to make. And it was probably hyperbole on han's behalf.

Revan is as screwed as possible, the Star Forge could probably not even outproduce the Empire. His tactics wouldn't be much better then that of the Empire if at all. And his ships are outdated and outclassed at the bests of times. Really his only chance is to assassinate every single high imperial leader. The Emperor Vader, Thrawn and the other grand admirals... And I don't think he could pull that one off.

Well it seems like thats up to HK-47...