Originally posted by jaden101
i remember watching newsnight when they said that the most likely candidates would be hilary clinton (as we know already) and condoleeza ricean all women presidential race...a very interesting prospect indeed
not sure if it'll happen though
satan running against the antichrist? are there not antinepotism laws for elections?
well, if it comes down to that i just may be writing in "darth vader" as well
Originally posted by PVS
deano, can you please not derail this thread.
my point and the point of many others is that mccain is a far
better choice than hillary. nodody is insisting that he's the frikin
messiah, so can you please just knock it off.
as i said, it doesnt matter who is in office. they are all puppets.
but i will 'knock it off' from now on
Originally posted by AdventChild
that's great! I turn 18 in 2008! I'm voting for hilary!edit: HEY !! i'm the only person voting hilary?!
You guys suck! big ol balls!
I voted for Hilary! 😄
I thnk these are great candidates! Ima be able to vote for the next election and if it comes to these to i dont know who ill pick! Im a hard core democrat always was for them, but john mccain is a really good candidate! he is the only rational and sane republican!!! rofl
*beep* Hillary Clinton...she needs to drop that stupid assumption that video games makes children more violent. Just for that she's off my christmas list...or maybe I should send her a copy of Half Life 2 as a gift.....
yea that shit is so stupid to believe!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i dont see a connection between the two! why dont they focus on other more important things instead of stupid stuff like that!
Though i believe she is a good candidate cuz unlike many polititions she is one of the few people that try to reason w/ the other party. I thnk she will run because it seems that as of late she has been trying to appease to conservatives, does any1 thnk so too?
I dont like Republicans, i h8 almost all bcuz they are too ****in conservative and never do anythin good for us! But John McCain is a good guy, and he does stick up for wut he believes and doesnt go along w/ the party sometimes and thats wut i love about him! As for the democrats, they need to stop being such pussies and start speaking up!!!! They need to get their act 2gether for the next election because if McCain does run for president ill vote for him! somebody said condoleeza rice may be a candidate...rofl i hope not!!!!!!
Neither. A vote for any major party candidate is a vote for a corrupt system that no longer works. While both major parties may vary slightly on a few social issues both are firmly under the control of large, multinational corporations. Both have sold us out. Unless the rampant immigration is checked and free trade policies are repealed there is no future for the USA. China will soon replace us as the dominant world economic power and while it will take longer, the top military power as well. We only have ourselves to blame. Unless there is REAL change in the political process, something I am very pessimistic about, the USA is doomed.
Originally posted by Darth_Erebus
Neither. A vote for any major party candidate is a vote for a corrupt system that no longer works. While both major parties may vary slightly on a few social issues both are firmly under the control of large, multinational corporations. Both have sold us out. Unless the rampant immigration is checked and free trade policies are repealed there is no future for the USA. China will soon replace us as the dominant world economic power and while it will take longer, the top military power as well. We only have ourselves to blame. Unless there is REAL change in the political process, something I am very pessimistic about, the USA is doomed.
a very well thought out point which i agree with. unfortunately its purely idealistic thinking like that that allowed bush to get into office. nader anyone?
Originally posted by Darth_Erebus
Neither. A vote for any major party candidate is a vote for a corrupt system that no longer works. While both major parties may vary slightly on a few social issues both are firmly under the control of large, multinational corporations. Both have sold us out. Unless the rampant immigration is checked and free trade policies are repealed there is no future for the USA. China will soon replace us as the dominant world economic power and while it will take longer, the top military power as well. We only have ourselves to blame. Unless there is REAL change in the political process, something I am very pessimistic about, the USA is doomed.
so you suggest Green party candidates?
Originally posted by Morgoths_Wrath
so you suggest Green party candidates?
Well, last election I voted for Badnarick (Libertarian) even though I don't support much about his party's movement. Looking back I should have voted for Nader. We need a real grass roots reform movement with viable candidates. Unfortunately I don't see it happening. The vast majority still foolishly believe that voting either Democrat or Republican is the answer. They may believe, correctly this time, that only such candidates can win elections. I wish I had a real solution. I don't. I do see LOTS of problems in the future.
1)Rising oil prices will be our main problem in the coming 5-10 years. This will cause high inflation which will have a snowball effect.
a)Interest rates will rise...causing
b)the national housing market to crash
c)People will have less money for other things
d)Business will further cut back to try to survive causing
1)Further demand for outsourcing and calls for more cheap labor immigrants
One could argue that withdrawing from Iraq would lessen our national financial strain but it also leaves our oil supply vulnerable.
Politicians pay lip service to the fuel crisis when gasoline is nearly $3 a gallon but go back to debating non issues like abortion and gay marriage when oil prices fall a little.
The solution of the current administration to this is to drill for oil in Alaska. This is like trying to fix a severed arm with a small band aid. The amount of oil up there is limited and even the most optimistic estimates say it will only buy us 2-3 years. Many estimates put it at a year or less.
Government needs to quit pandering to the oil lobby and encourage the development of alternative fuels. The technology is already in place for many of these. Production costs are the problem.
But, I keep hearing about the patriot act, terrorism, gay marriage, abortion, should "under God" be in the pledge, etc, etc. etc. Everything EXCEPT what's REALLY important.
Just wait a few years. The writing's on the wall but people don't want to see it. Go ahead and support the status quo, see where it will lead.
Originally posted by Darth_Erebus
Neither. A vote for any major party candidate is a vote for a corrupt system that no longer works. While both major parties may vary slightly on a few social issues both are firmly under the control of large, multinational corporations. Both have sold us out. Unless the rampant immigration is checked and free trade policies are repealed there is no future for the USA. China will soon replace us as the dominant world economic power and while it will take longer, the top military power as well. We only have ourselves to blame. Unless there is REAL change in the political process, something I am very pessimistic about, the USA is doomed.
OH NOES!!
Originally posted by jaden101
i remember watching newsnight when they said that the most likely candidates would be hilary clinton (as we know already) and condoleeza ricean all women presidential race...a very interesting prospect indeed
not sure if it'll happen though
Wow, that would be one hell of an issue of 'What If..."
I would just crumple under the political pressure of such a loaded race. The first black/female candidate...running as a republican...! It would totally flip the demographic on it's ****ing ear! Blacks and whites/demoracts and republicans would be totally confused. If the future of the country weren't at stake, I'd love to see such a race.
But, Rice is kind of a no one candidate. So was Bush, and she has been a very public figure, but I just don't see the republicans putting her face on their party.