Wonderman Vs Apollo

Started by Scoobless6 pages
Originally posted by Sir Whirlysplat
Apollo is to versatile for Wonderman.

no he's not... he only has one power that Wonderman doesn't also have - heat blasts

Originally posted by Scoobless
no he's not... he only has one power that Wonderman doesn't also have - heat blast

his faster, probably stronger, at full charge (not sundipped) nearly as resiliant.

Originally posted by Sir Whirlysplat
his faster, probably stronger, at full charge (not sundipped) nearly as resiliant.

any strength or speed advantage he has isn't that great.... and WM has more experience than Apollo (I think)

Originally posted by Scoobless
any strength or speed advantage he has isn't that great.... and WM has more experience than Apollo (I think)

Most of that experience was as a coward 🙂

Apollo was created by Bendix.

Apollo's strength fades quickly. WM's physical attributes increase with anger or focus. If they fought straight up with no prep whatsoever, WM will take a slight beating in the beginning, but he will eventually grow angrier and more focused, while Apollo's strength quickly fades.

Wonder Man takes it 7 times out of 10.

Oh, heat vision will do two things to WM. Jack sh!t. Wm has been put through a sun before what is heat going to do to him? He's practically an energy being composed entirely of ionic energy. Their are accounts were this was disputed, but during his battles with Mephisto and Blackheart, he was able reshape his body at will. Reform his lost arm, grow to match the size of Atlas. He even fired off ionic blasts from his eyes knocking War Machine through concrete walls.

Seems like WM is more versatile than Apollo.

Wonder Man for the win

Since when has Apollo been as strong as Wonderman?

Since he was created

Any strength feats that back this up, because as of the last time I had this debate Apollo didn't have any feats that came close to Wonderman's higher end feats

Have you read any Authority comics/TPBs?

Originally posted by Scoobless
Since he was created

I think Apollo has a significant Strength Advantage. He's performed various feats that have put him at least in a mountain Moving range. He's also classified as a Majestic level being (Who is definitely a planet mover). Wonder Man has shown on various occasions that he struggles with Weights in the Kilo ton range (Objects weighing Thousands of tons). In the fight against Thor, I think he taking of advantage of the fact that Thor subconsciously becomes a Pu$$y when ever he fights with the Avengers. Wonder man probably has a Durability advantage. Apollo has had various low showings, against Midknighter, that fake Thor and other beings with less strength than Wonder man. I not 100% sure but Apollo seems to be a lot faster than Wonder man. Apollo is often compared to Superman, but the only power i think he has that puts him on this Cosmic level is his 'Heat Vision' esque power. This seems to have no limits and there is evidence to suggest he can distribute this from any 3 Dimensional point. I think he could literally cook Wonder man from the Inside out. Apollo wins this IMO. 🙂

So no feats then, thank you

There are plenty... I don't have a lot of Authority stuff stored on my comp at the moment... I'll have a look through some of it later.

There is an Authority respect thread in the comic book forum, you should be able to find something in there:

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f95/t405554.html

Originally posted by Silent Master
So no feats then, thank you

There are loads .... Easilly lifts a Skyskraper (Something Wonderman has never Done), Destroys a Space Staition that is about the size of a small country with one attack. Easilly fights off 10 different Super villans at the same time with Marvel Level 6 strength.

And Wonderman was supporting an Island that had both the Avengers hydrobase and a mountain on it, Island >> skyscraper

Originally posted by Silent Master
And Wonder man was supporting an Island that had both the Avengers Hydro base and a mountain on it, Island >> skyscraper

Are you talking about the Graviton incident ? ... because he did have the Mid guard Serpent moving, Hydro base Dragging, Wold Engine pushing Thor helping him. If Thor wasn't in one of his 'I better be a wimp coz I'm an Avenger' moods, he should have been able to lift that Island by himself. Wonder man is yet to conclusively prove he's MUCH stronger than Iron man or the Thing, both of whom are in the Kiloton range. You have also purposively ignored the other feats mentioned.

No, I'm not talking about the Graviton example, as for your other examples you didn't give enough detail for them to mean anything.

Like say, strength feats that prove how strong the villains were, and what type of attack he used on the space station, I mean did he just punch it and the whole thing shattered at once or did he attack a vulnerable point, like say a power generator that caused it to explode or simply punch a whole in a bulkhead and let the decompression do all the work.

He usually just points himself at stuff (spaceships, monsters, super-people) and flies straight through it/them

That would be durability, not strength.

I never said it was (though strength is a part of it) I was responding to your question about which part of the ships (or whatever) he usually hits