Originally posted by PhilosophíaIf we're talking about combat superspeed, "fundamental" is a bit of an overstatement, IMO. If it's general superspeed, then yea.
Why wouldn't he be? It's the second power he was introduced with, in Action Comics #1 (the original), after his strength, and it's quite fundamental to what he's supposed to represent.
Originally posted by PhilosophíaGeneral superspeed, i.e., traveling or flying really fast, doesn't really mean much in terms of combat superspeed, i.e., the ability to perceive and react in miniscule moments in time. And to bear down on your point about Superman's original appearance, 1939 Superman running (not flying) really fast means as much as 1963 Thor running really fast (not flying). Which is... not much.
Can you define the difference between general superspeed and combat superspeed?
I'm doing rough justice to it, but I think it's a fair distinction to make if we're tracing back to character origins and "fundamental aspects."
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
General superspeed, i.e., traveling or flying really fast, doesn't really mean much in terms of combat superspeed, i.e., the ability to perceive and react in miniscule moments in time. And to bear down on your point about Superman's original appearance, 1939 Superman running (not flying) really fast means as much as 1963 Thor running really fast (not flying). Which is... not much.I'm doing rough justice to it, but I think it's a fair distinction to make.
You're just exercising your right to hate as usual. mmm
Originally posted by OneDumbG0So your definition of general superspeed is 'flying'?
General superspeed, i.e., traveling or flying really fast, doesn't really mean much in terms of combat superspeed, i.e., the ability to perceive and react in miniscule moments in time.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0😂
1939 Superman running (not flying) really fast means as much as 1963 Thor running really fast (not flying).
This is sad, and I'm afraid I'm going to start picking on that beach ball supported by your neck anytime now, so I'm just going to stop here.
Enjoy your, as has been succintly put, "exercise to hate".
^ Whatever. I'm not going to bandy over what will inevitably descend into terminology semantics.
Originally posted by -Pr-I'd rather not start an argument that is predicated on my putting words into other people's mouths. But maybe I shouldn't beat around the bushes. Granting that people may not be behaving this way at all, so my observation would be moot (hence my initial nudge for further distinction/clarification):
You're just exercising your right to hate as usual. mmm
I fail to see how, in his latest issue appearance, current Superman bullrushes current GL in a straight-line blur and it seems to be interpreted as a combat superspeed feat...
... when both Thor and Surfer bullrushed in straight-line blurs in their latest issue appearances and, of course, it's only traveling speed.
Originally posted by OneDumbG0
I'd rather not start an argument that is predicated on my putting words into other people's mouths. But maybe I shouldn't beat around the bushes. Granting that people may not be behaving this way at all, so my observation would be moot (hence my initial nudge for further distinction/clarification):I fail to see how, in his latest issue appearance, current Superman bullrushes current GL in a straight-line blur and it seems to be interpreted as a combat superspeed feat...
... when both Thor and Surfer bullrushed in straight-line blurs in their latest issue appearances and, of course, it's only traveling speed.
I was just kidding.
In fairness though i wouldn't call it a bull-rush, as he didn't just plough in to them, but that's me.
